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fasces349 (1052 D)
26 Dec 10 UTC
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Advertise live games here
Like in webdiplo, this thread will be used to help people find live games
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abadu (980 D)
Sat 08 Jul UTC
Live game nights?
More in the response:
abadu (980 D)
Sat 08 Jul UTC
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Hey everyone! My apologies if this has recently been proposed, but I browsed through recent threads and didn't find anything. Is there any general interest among the players in having live games on a more regular basis, perhaps once or twice a month? We could perhaps open one new thread for the games, take suggestions for different games, dive into some variant excursions, arrange votes and announce the exact schedule for those games. This could be an advantage compared to trying to initiate spontaneous games with enough players.

These games would probably mostly consist of gunboat, although it might be fun to throw in the occasional public press game. I feel like fast-paced games (5 min for smaller maps and 10 min or more for bigger maps) can sometimes be a welcome change to sitting several months through a game.

I would be interested in creating those games and taking some responsibility of things actually happening since this doesn't require any mod privileges as far as I can see. Weekends are best for me, usually either Saturday or Sunday afternoon (CET + 1).

Maybe leave a comment or upvote if you like this idea or have something to add. Or if somebody feels I'm overstepping my boundaries, feel free to put me back in my place :)
BobRoss (937 D)
Sat 08 Jul UTC
I'd be down for playing live games sometimes!

I have the feeling most live games never started as they are created at a random time with too little players interested/available. Only for 1v1 games it works every now and then, yet it's difficult to get variants with more players off the ground.

The only problem that remains is that it will require quite some coordination as many players live in completely different timezones. Might be difficult to get enough people available for 1 or 2 hours if you want to do a 7+ player variant.
Mercy (1830 D)
Sat 08 Jul UTC
I would enjoy playing live games. I am available between 3 am and 4 pm GMT on most days in the holidays.
yoak (1133 D)
Sat 08 Jul UTC
I'm around evenings Pacific Coast time most of the time, and would love to play full press live games.
abadu (980 D)
Sat 08 Jul UTC
BobRoss: How about you, any timezone you favor? I have had the same (very limited) experience about live games not taken off, likely because of them being too spontaneous. We could probably start with trying out smaller maps and see if it works.

yoak: Glad you're interested! I'm not sure about full press games though, 5 or 10 min phases are probably not enough unless you're only talking to neighbors? I think even public press might be quite chaotic in shorter games.
Mercy (1830 D)
Sun 09 Jul UTC
I am experienced at playing live games and 10 min/phase should surely be enough.

I regularly play live Classic games on webdiplomacy.net. Gunboats are often 5 min/phase and press games often 7 min/phase (an option we don't have here), though 5 min/phase and 10 min/phase for press games also happen regularly. These games are playable, though you have to make decisions quickly and don't have much time to ponder on your strategies.

An advantage that vdiplomacy.net has over webdiplomacy.net is that many maps here have the IA map. With use of the IA map, you can enter orders much quicker than without.
I sometimes play live games with friends on vdiplomacy.net. The latest game I played was gameID=30710, a 10 min/phase press game on a map for 9 players. We had plenty of time to talk and to enter orders. The IA map helped with entering orders quickly, but I don't think was even necessary, because if you make quick decisions, you can do a lot in 10 minutes.
yoak (1133 D)
Sun 09 Jul UTC
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I agree with Mercy. I've played quite a few of these over on webdip. It allows basic coordination and alliances, but I wouldn't try to negotiate Key Lepanto (unless I knew the other guy was already very familiar, cause there is only time for yes / no). I find the restrictions in bandwidth in talking an interesting additional component of the game. Identifying the skill level of opponents goes up. Sometimes decisions about who to work with even emerge based on the other player's ability to communicate enough in the time frame allowed. Another neat phenomenon is that no one needs all that time during retreats and builds, but it always gets used. This puts a premium on an ability to project, because at certain phases you get 2x or even 3x with retreats to discuss with allies, and if you can see further into the future, it makes later, quicker communication easier and more effective.

You might start out with things like, "DMZ the Channel and both press hard on Germany? I'll take Belgium and you take Holland, and we'll support each other in from there." And barely get a yes, but by retreats in the fall, you can be mapping things out, discussing what Italy and Russia are up to, etc.

Or maybe all this is just rationalization from a guy who really hates gunboat. ;-)
abadu (980 D)
Sun 09 Jul UTC
Thanks guys for the insight, I guess it might be more accurate than my assumptions based on very little live-game experience :) Unfortunately yoak and I are in quite opposite time-zones so I'm not sure we'll find a suitable time for both of us. So maybe I'll set up a game for next Sunday at 12 pm GMT and see how it goes (set it up tomorrow so it'll start at the right time).

Your observations about full press games got me curious, so maybe we could start out with the Classic map (first come, first served), and I'll try to figure out whether 5 or 10 min is best, as I'm perhaps not that used to making very quick in-game decisions.
abadu (980 D)
Sun 09 Jul UTC
I guess 5 min should suffice as most players are pretty familiar with the map.
Mercy (1830 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
^ I cannot play at that time, too.
abadu (980 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
How about the next weekend?
Lukas Podolski (1538 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
Probs I won't be available in the near future but I would like to keep the option open, therefore I am curious: anyone around the GMT+8 timezone?
Mercy (1830 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
I am currently at GMT + 2, but I go to bed and wake up really early so you can almost count me as GMT + 8. :p
Like I said, I play between 3 am and 4 pm GMT. I can never play at 12 pm GMT.
I'm interested in live games, but first I have to figure out the time zones.
Okay. I am GMT minus 6. Well, nobody ever said coordinating across the world was easy.
yoak (1133 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
12 PM Sunday would be 5:00 AM for me. On a Sunday. :-) I don't think I can play then. Ideal for me would be 3 AM - 7 AM GMT.
yoak (1133 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
I'm US West Coast time. Evenings generally work best.
BobRoss (937 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
I'm in Central European Summer Time which equals GMT + 2 i believe.

These weeks I have quite a load of time on my hands, so most afternoon/evenings would work for me - though i'd like to know beforehand so i can schedule my other obligations and activities around it if necessary.
abadu (980 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
Mercy: Actually 12 pm means noon, 12:01 pm is one past noon, 1 pm comes after 12:59 pm etc. I know, it confuses me as well.
abadu (980 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
Noon is what I meant though.
yoak (1133 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
Abadu, are you saying I have it wrong?
abadu (980 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
Nope, you have it quite right. And sorry, I think it may be difficult to get us in the same game. I'm usually sleeping in on Sunday so 7 am GMT is too early, 9 am GMT - 9 pm GMT are most optimal for me.
What if we had an North/South American group and a European/African group?

We could incorporate players in Asia and Australia into each group as we see fit. (Australians would probably play with us Americans, and so on.) This way, the people in the live games wouldn't have to be up at all odd hours.

It's just an idea. If it's awful, tell me so. If it's good, let's get it organized.
Mercy (1830 D)
Tue 11 Jul UTC
@abadu: ''Mercy: Actually 12 pm means noon, 12:01 pm is one past noon, 1 pm comes after 12:59 pm etc. I know, it confuses me as well.''
What? I am indeed confused now.

Well, to avoid further confusion, I can play between 03:00 and 16:00 GMT, which is between 05:00 and 18:00 Central European Summer Time (GMT +2).

@Mr. Finkelmuiyer: I am not in favor of having geographical groups because people not only differ in timezones, but also in the times they can play within their timezone. There are certain times that more people can play than at other times, though, so I think adding groups that play at certain times is a good idea. I would then suggest creating multiple groups and allow the possibility to join multiple groups.
When I play live at webdiplomacy.net, there are two different times when my live games always start. I either start a live game between 03:00 and 04:00 GMT and play with Americans (who then play in the evening or night), or I start a live game around 13:00 GMT and play with Europeans (who then play in the afternoon). I have never seen a live game start in the middle between 04:00 GMT and 13:00 GMT.
abadu (980 D)
Tue 11 Jul UTC
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12-hour_clock Although, not a bad idea to start using the 24-hour clock :P So in my earlier suggestion I was indeed referring to 12:00 GMT in the 24-hour clock system.
Okay. It was just a thought.
abadu (980 D)
Fri 14 Jul UTC
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Looks like I'm also gonna be pretty busy this weekend so I'll try to get this thing going one week from now. Since there's no absolute consensus about a good starting time I'm just gonna go with Sunday, July 23rd 12:00 GMT and see if we'll get enough players.
Mercy (1830 D)
Fri 14 Jul UTC
I will play.
Mercy (1830 D)
Thu 09 AM UTC
Anyone else?
BobRoss (937 D)
Thu 10 AM UTC
I think i'll be able to make it!
abadu (980 D)
Thu 10 AM UTC
I'll set it up in any case in 90 minutes (this time I'll remember), maybe we'll also get some spontaneous players.
BobRoss (937 D)
Thu 10 AM UTC
90 minutes? thought this was happening the 23rd of July?
abadu (980 D)
Thu 10 AM UTC
Yup, I'll set it up to start 3 days after creation ;)
BobRoss (937 D)
Thu 10 AM UTC
Ahh I see, excellent ;-)
Anon (?? D)
Thu 12 PM UTC
Here's the game link http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=31676z
abadu (980 D)
Thu 12 PM UTC
Hmm, I thought adding a letter after the link shows the post with my own name. 'Twas me.
Mercy (1830 D)
Thu 02 PM UTC
I disagree with the game being PPSC.
abadu (980 D)
Thu 02 PM UTC
Okay, I have no problem with changing that.
BobRoss (937 D)
07:44 PM UTC
Will all phases be 5 minutes tomorrow? I've never played a 7-person live game and can imagine it's going to be quite tough to fit in negotiations (especially in the beginning) with several players in 5 minutes..
BobRoss (937 D)
08:15 PM UTC
Have read a bit through earlier comments in this thread and i assume the answer to be 'yes' ;-) thus, nvm.


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butterhead (961 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Decima Legio (2133 D)
Tue 18 Jul UTC
Replacement needed
Details below
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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
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BobRoss (937 D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
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vpoints plummeted?
I just noticed my vpoints dropped from 1570 to 963 out of the blue? Is a new ranking system in place at vdip?
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Devonian (1843 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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kaner406 (1397 D Mod (B) (B))
24 Sep 16 UTC
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I've been Boursed!!! 2016
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Argentinean Empire (955 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
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Word Association Thread
Hello! I saw a thread like this on WebDip. We start with a word, and you then post the one word that pops into your mind after you read that word. The first word is FIRST.
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Anon (?? D)
Mon 17 Jul UTC
Take over the third Reich!!!
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=31530
World War II with Germany in a really great position...
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The Ambassador (1676 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

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lazynomad (1094 D)
Sat 15 Jul UTC
Wings: Air Force rules variant for Diplomacy
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Variant Tournaments
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kaner406 (1397 D Mod (B) (B))
Tue 11 Jul UTC
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Damn I'm a sucker for punishment - yup commedy cube
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drano019 (2025 D)
06 Jun 17 UTC
Question for Mods
Are you guys still checking the "Mods" tab? Just curious if those queries are still being responded to.
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BobRoss (937 D)
Mon 10 Jul UTC
Common Courtesy?
Over the past few weeks i've noticed that there is an awfully lot of NMR's and CDs happening. Many of these take place in a later stage of the game with no extended phase in place.


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Namejeff (996 D)
Fri 07 Jul UTC
Advertisement
I am advertising a fog game called fog 9
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Flame (0 D)
03 Jul 17 UTC
Napoleonic variaant. RELEASED!
Napoleonic variant from FireHawk is fixed and avaliable for playing here:
http://server.diplomail.ru/variants.php?variantID=101
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Anon (?? D)
03 Jul 17 UTC
New game: Prince of Gunboat
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Technostar (1014 D)
29 Jun 17 UTC
Replacements needed for games.
Due to unforeseen circumstances this summer, I am in need of a replacement in 3 of the games I am playing. They are all anonymous Gunboat/Public Press games and are decent positions. PM me if interested and I will leave relevant information in my notes.
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hellenic_riot (1000 D)
02 May 17 UTC
Banned From Web Diplomacy?
Hello new friends! I was banned from Web Diplomacy.

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BobRoss (937 D)
18 Jun 17 UTC
Rank Titles?
Hello!

I am curious about the system of rank titles that is in place at vdip.
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Freido28 (977 D)
19 Jun 17 UTC
Noob question...
What does IAMap mean in the variant types?
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gopher27 (1208 D)
13 May 17 UTC
Quote Association Thread
Hello! I saw a thread like this scrawled on the wall of a Guatemalan insane asylum deep in the jungle primeval. We start with a quote, and you then post the one quote that pops into your mind after you read that quote. The first word is FIRST.

“The key to Springfield has always been Elm Street. The Greeks knew it. The Carthaginians knew it. Now you know it.”
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ScubaSteve (1086 D)
08 Jun 17 UTC
WWII conference room decoration suggestions
I am going to decorate my conference room with a WWII theme. I have a couple of recruiting/propaganda posters and am thinking of putting a big map of the war or a number of individual maps of various theaters basically in their respective areas on a wall. Any suggestions or recommendations on what to buy and where to buy it?
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Anon (?? D)
09 Jun 17 UTC
AAA Cercasi italiano
Hi all, I am looking for 2 Italian speaking players for an anonymous greypress classic map. The bet is very low (5) . Anybody? Contact me in private, and I'll share the password!

http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=31296
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Damian (1023 D Mod)
10 Jun 17 UTC
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Site Rules
Greeting vDippers.
It has come to my attention that quite a few players are unaware of the site rules. If you're a new player, or a vet and you haven't read over the site rules I'd urge you to do so. http://vdiplomacy.net/rules.php#Rules
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michael_b (997 D)
07 Jun 17 UTC
Big Game
Hello Everyone, I just started a 35 player game and need it to fill up before it expires. It is non-anon also.

Please Join:
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=31295
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New game looking for players
Small six player game.
Anarchy in the UK
With respect for Manchester
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cy4 (958 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
African Jeff
Okay so we are playing the Africa map and we need 2 more players to join ASAP so we can get started. I have friends in the game already, just so you know but we won't be biased. The password is "jeff".
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