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Sky_Hopper (899 D)
04 Apr 18 UTC
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Imbalanced map?
It seems as if several maps need some balancing work. For example, England* v Turkey is skewed toward England, and in Rinascimento, the French are virtually at the hands of other players’ wills.
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Safari (1510 D (B))
05 Jan 18 UTC
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Austrian Succession: New and Improved
After four years, War of Austrian Succession is nearing completion! Please come help test it so that I can perfect the balance.
It would be very helpful if we could have no NMRs for the first few phases. http://lab.diplomail.ru/board.php?gameID=64
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gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
23 Apr 18 UTC
War of Austrian Succession....being obnoxious
Does history matter and should it fall to a mathematician to be the history nerd?
gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
23 Apr 18 UTC
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First off, the War of the Austrian Succession was more properly the War of the Bohemian Succession. Maria Theresa was the eldest daughter of an Emperor without sons who had inherited the throne from his older brother whose only son had died. There had been an agreement that if the younger brother failed to produce a son that the elder brother's daughters (the Queen of Poland and the Queen of Bavaria) would have superior inheritance rights over the younger brother's daughters. The Queen of Bavaria then claimed the Kingdom of Bohemia without making claims against Austria or Hungary. This was significant because Bohemia was one of the 7 electors, and after France bribed, threatened and cajoled the Bishop-Electors of Mainz, Trier and Cologne, the vote of Bohemia was sufficient to make the King of Bavaria the Holy Roman Emperor.

Second, Spain had lost all of her possessions is Italy as a result of the War of the Spanish Succession. Sicily and Naples seem to be Spain's color. The old King of Spain had fathered new children with his second Italian wife. This second wife wanted possessions in Italy to set up her sons as Kings of Dukes. Specifically, she wanted Parma.

Third, while France wanted to break the power of the House of Austria within Germany, France also had her then long term goal of seizing the Southern portions of what is today Belgium principally to advance their frontier to a highly defensible river but also to take in the Francophone Walloons.

None of these three central focuses of the war exist as Supply Centers.

Frederick the Great and the awesome Prussian Army was largely a thing of the next generation. Frederick never really faced the Austrian Army during this war. Austria was fighting the French in the Low Countries and in Southern Germany and the Spanish and the French in both Northern and Southern Italy throughout the war. The top two Austrian generals were von Khevenhüller and von Traun. The Prussians faced von Traun only once and were soundly defeated. Aside from this one brief campaign in which von Traun was sent with a real army to evict the Prussians from Moravia, von Traun spent nearly the entire war in Italy, while von Khevenhüller evicted the French from Southern Germany and forced the Bavarians out of Bohemia.
gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
23 Apr 18 UTC
Should read "Kings or Dukes" not "Kings of Dukes".
gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
23 Apr 18 UTC
BTW, the one bit I have seen of Downton Abbey that I thought was utterly brilliant:

Isobel Crawley: "I really wish you could open your mouth without sounding like Marie Antoinette's older sister."

Violet Crawley: "Queen Maria Carolina of Naples and Sicily was an admirable and stalwart woman."
Enriador (1369 D (B))
23 Apr 18 UTC
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Excellent overview @gopher. I agree with most of your points.

On Spanish Naples: in 1740 the kingdom was under a Bourbon monarch, son of the Spanish king. Actually, this Neapolitan king would eventually become king of Spain himself a few years later.

So I like how the variant mimics this by making Naples/Sicily start under Spain, but without any units there. It represents both Naples within the Spanish sphere of influence, and its isolated location from the Bourbon heartlands.
gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
23 Apr 18 UTC
I know that, but he was a son by the second wife and had no reasonable expectation of becoming King of Spain until many people died. This was the settlement from the War of the Polish Succession. Naples kind of joined the Franco-Spanish alliance but was hardly a reliable ally
Enriador (1369 D (B))
23 Apr 18 UTC
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>he was a son by the second wife and had no reasonable expectation of becoming King of Spain until many people died

Still, Naples was considered to be closer to Spain than the Habsburgs.

>hardly a reliable ally

This is represented by the lack of any Spanish units in the kingdom, and the fact the two SCs there can easily be taken by Piedmont-Sardinia and the Ottoman Empire.
Enriador (1369 D (B))
23 Apr 18 UTC
*than to the Habsburgs
Safari (1510 D (B))
24 Apr 18 UTC
Every game of Diplomacy is a giant "what if" scenario - what happens after the starting year is up to the players, not historical figures. If you want a map designed to simulate the real events that took place from 1740-1748, feel free to create your own variant. If you want to have fun playing Dip on a 90% historically accurate map (small liberties were taken to provide a more balanced experience) give this one a try...

For what it's worth, Bohemia is one of the key strategic territories on the map, Spain and Naples literally combined their armies to fight in Italy soon after the fighting began, France is almost guaranteed to want to move to the region you refer to, and it was the invasion of Silesia by none other than Fred II himself that began the entire war.
gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
24 Apr 18 UTC
Spain and Naples did not combine their armies in Italy to anything approaching the degree that Austria, Britain and the Netherlands did in the Low Countries.

Your comment about Silesia are ahistorical. Prussia marched into Silesia because they expected to get away with it while Austria was more concerned with protecting Prague from the Bavarians and Brussels from the French. Belgium, Bohemia and Parma were what the war was all about. Silesia was a side show that the Austrians gave away to contest more important things.
Enriador (1369 D (B))
24 Apr 18 UTC
>Spain and Naples did not combine their armies in Italy to anything approaching the degree that Austria, Britain and the Netherlands did in the Low Countries.

Is there a Diplomacy-friendly way to represent military operations of different scales? In Classic, the Obriani front (VEN-TRI) has same scale as the Western Front (BUR-MUN)...

While I agree that these key centers of attrition could have been SCs, they would have messed up with the variant's balance.

@gopher, you made a very good piece of criticism, and it's clear you know a good deal about the period. Since every criticism must be followed with advice on how to improve it, I ask: in what way would you modify the map to fit its historical needs without screwing balance (a very hard thing to do in Diplomacy)?
gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
24 Apr 18 UTC
No, I understand the issues. Creating a Diplomacy variant around this incredibly unbalanced conflict is very tough. Austria was initially attacked on four fronts and had to employ diplomacy and deploy a huge amount of British money to survive. But Prussia did not "beat" Austria to gain Silesia. The British threatened to withdraw their subsidies if Austria did not make peace with Prussia (which guarded British held Hanover) and Austria agreed in exchange for being allowed to take Naples and Sicily. Austria also agreed to make concessions in Northern Italy to Savoy.

BTW, one of the last acts of Cardinal Fleury was to acknowledge Austrian annexation of Bavaria in exchange for the Austrians allowing the French army besieged in Prague safe passage back across the Rhine. Austria rejected the offer in hopes of an even better deal once the French army surrendered, but it escaped the encirclement and Fleury died.

To capture the history, one might give Austria a bunch of unguarded SCs in the North with her armies in the South to fend off the Ottomans. Austria eventually raised huge armies in Hungary and marched them into Germany much to the horror of the Bavarians. And France finally committed to sending a 100,000 man army into Belgium under Maurice de Saxe to crush the combined Anglo-Austro-Dutch army after failing to gain advantage in Italy or Southern Germany or along the Rhine.


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Enriador (1369 D (B))
04 Apr 18 UTC
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'Edwardian' - A new variant
Greetings diplomats.

I present you @VaeVictis's 'Edwardian' - an upcoming jewel to vDiplomacy's glorious crown. 'Edwardian' is set in 1901, the start of the Edwardian Era, and represents the intrigue and tension of the period with a level of elegance and detail never seen before
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CCR (1706 D)
12 Dec 17 UTC
A Reconquista variant
http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/i/iberian.htm
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nopunin10did (987 D)
30 May 17 UTC
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1900 for vDip: Progress Report (ongoing)
As mentioned in another thread, I've been working on the code and assets necessary to port Baron M. Powell's variant 1900 to vDip and/or webDip.

In order to keep myself accountable in some fashion to actually complete this task, and not just talk about it, I've created a small project plan where I can mark my progress.
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stephan (981 D)
16 Apr 18 UTC
Vermont needed!
Vermont in „the trump effect“ 50 states game has been basically abandoned and is still in its (characteristically) stronk position, but not for much longer. grab while supplies last!
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Sky_Hopper (899 D)
15 Apr 18 UTC
Blank variant?
On the variants page there's currently a row with no assigned variant. Can you fix this?
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TheFlyingJarate (940 D)
15 Apr 18 UTC
Hello, I have a problem
Hello, I have a problem. I am going away for a few days (tomorrow), and I don't know how to quit the game I am in. There are 36 players, so I cannot reasonably ask for all of them to pause --- besides, there isn't enough time --- so I am stuck.
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Maiorianus (1000 D)
14 Apr 18 UTC
Playing with fewer players
Hi all!

I know this is probably a noob question, but I need to resolve this issue: is it possible to start a game with fewer players than those normally expected? I tried it once with the Rinascimento variant, but the game didn't launch just because there weren't 12 players.
Thank you in advance!
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Enriador (1369 D (B))
02 Apr 18 UTC
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Machiavelli Variant
Hail diplomats,

'Machiavelli', a legendary variant of Diplomacy, will soon be made available here on vDip using Andrew Jameson's adaptation.
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drano019 (2114 D)
05 Apr 18 UTC
Variant Design Help
See below.
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Oli (977 D Mod (P))
05 Apr 18 UTC
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New convoy-code.
Thanks to tobi1 we have a new and improved convoy-code.
This was really a problem for all "big" variants.
Very cool you could solve this problem. I did take a look at your code, but I'm absolutely clueless... :-)
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Sky_Hopper (899 D)
06 Apr 18 UTC
Gunboat specs
If the "Gunboat", "Public Press", or "Per Rulebook" rules are employed, shouldn't the game be automatically "Anon" as well? If it weren't, then players could just PM each other, defeating the purpose.
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gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
06 Apr 18 UTC
Question about social norms for players
In a large game, a reliable player asked the mods to extend the game for Easter. The request was general and largely in the name of other player: "Hey guys, it's Easter, and in a big game, some people will probably be traveling to see family." The extension was granted, and requests like that are likely to be accepted.
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Sky_Hopper (899 D)
06 Apr 18 UTC
Port this?
Here's a variant we might want to try (with a few tweaks, of course):
Map: https://apolyton.net/filedata/fetch?id=8931879
Thread: https://apolyton.net/forum/miscellaneous/archives/stories-diplomacy-archive/114155-stefu-s-very-own-north-american-diplomacy-1870-map
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JOIN: Imperial Diplomacy II - 3 more Players!
JOIN: Imperial Diplomacy II - 3 more Players!
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Oli (977 D Mod (P))
10 Feb 18 UTC
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RSS feed for Notifications (discussion)
Hi everyone.
Don't miss PMs or game-notifications with your personal RSS-feed.
In your settings-page you can create a unique link that updates with your "Notices"-tab on your homescreen.

Feel free to post ideas for improvements or suggestions.
What's your favorite RSS-client for your platform of choice?
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Sky_Hopper (899 D)
02 Apr 18 UTC
Testing a possible new variant
I've made a simple Diplomacy variant, but I haven't tested it. Would this be the place to (perhaps) gain some testers?
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sarmstro (1234 D)
03 Apr 18 UTC
Noob question
Hi, long time dipper, first time vdipper. Is it possible to enter orders using an android phone, or do I have to wait to get in front of a PC? The orders field just says "loading order" and nothing else happens.

Apologies for the stupid question, and hello!
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Battalion (1910 D)
29 Mar 18 UTC
Bot wars
I've been wondering how well you could write a script to play gunboat diplomacy. Probably not very well (at least to begin with!), but it would be fun to try. I don't really have the time to do this properly right now, but I'm interested to know if it has been done before, or whether anyone would be keen to try at some point in the future.
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Enriador (1369 D (B))
26 Mar 18 UTC
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[Upcoming] Renaissance: 1453
Hail diplomats! I wanted to share a very small project I have been working on. Soon we will have the chance to play 'Renaissance: 1453'!
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The Real Wheat (0 D)
29 Mar 18 UTC
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Issue with South American Supremacy Map
Hey, I'm getting ready to start a game with some friends using the South American Supremacy map. It appears the map is starting with a fleet in Bogata, which is a landlocked territory. the variant homepage lists Bogata as starting with an army. Is there is a good way to correct this? Thanks!
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The Ambassador (1626 D (B) (B))
26 Mar 18 UTC
vDip Google Map...
Where is it again? I tried finding it referenced in old forum threads but as search is non-existent, lucked out.
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The Ambassador (1626 D (B) (B))
22 Mar 18 UTC
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Forum search idea
Cam the awesome guys that know techie stuff add some functionality to the forum so you can search?
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jason4747 (798 D)
21 Mar 18 UTC
What happened to the U.S. of Insanity?
Draw?
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Woodruff (1000 D)
22 Mar 18 UTC
Map Markings
I apologize if this is a repeat question or if it's found somewhere obvious, but I'm brand new to vDiplomacy and I can't seem to find what the difference is between the two types of what I believe are SC markings on the Bye Bye Federalism map.

Can someone help me?
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March Madness discussion
Let's have a discussion/argument about this year's tournament.
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Pretz (971 D)
20 Mar 18 UTC
Option to play a variant with fewer than the max number of players?
Hello all,

I and two of my friends love playing 3 player diplo games together. Having gone through the different 3 player maps, I'm wondering if there is a way to play on some of the larger variants, but with just 3 people? For instance, I'd love it if we could play a 3 player game on Fall of the American Empire IV.
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Enriador (1369 D (B))
15 Mar 18 UTC
Which variant would you like seeing on vDiplomacy?
Is there a variant that you really want to play, but isn't available here yet?

I have done work on half a dozen variants and I would like to pick something else. What's your favorite?
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