Finished: 04 AM Tue 15 Jul 14 UTC
Wine and Vinegar
1 day, 1 hours /phase
Pot: 126 D - Spring, 1461, Finished
Rinascimento, Anon, PPSC, noProcess:Sat,Sun
1 excused NMR / no regaining / extend never
Game drawn

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05 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Venetia): Buona partita a tutti!

Good game to all!
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (dude1234dude): How do u do anything as ferrara, siena and pisa...
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Hirnsaege): You unite or serve a greater power. The interesting thing about this variant is its inbalance.
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Venetia): But if you are France you are doomed :D
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Hirnsaege): I have seen France being quite a big power – once ... – before i killed him ...
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Hirnsaege): Turkey is in the same dilemma as France btw.
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Venetia): Lol
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Hirnsaege): In general this map is more "role playing" than other variants. Find your role and play it well, and it is lots of fun and rewarding. It may be unlikely you win as Pisa (never say never), but if you survive by helping someone other to win, you earn a LOT of points for your next games (small countries get more reward in this than large ones do).
also, the large ones look dominant on the map, but they are not as powerful as they look in the start, and each of them has a disadvantage to handle too.
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (dude1234dude): Venice seems to have a huge advantage... It has no enemies behind its behind bsides turkey who usually goes for Naples, and is in no hurry to take its massive hord of free SCs... I'd like to play Papal states though the unit in Ben seems interesting
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Hirnsaege): Game statistics wise, Napoli is the one to win most likely (7 solos for him, 4 for Venice, 3 for the Pope)
Venice has quite some business to do with potentially 5 neighbours threatening him (turkey *is* coming for him). those "easy" centers in the backyard mean he has to give up defenses frontline and walk all the way back there. I've played Venice once, and it took me years to spare the forces so i could collect those.
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Hirnsaege): As far as i can remember, me and the Pope had a twoway draw in the end.
06 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Rancher): Eh, I've even done extremely well with Turk and with Pisa
07 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (champ11228): Hey
07 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Hirnsaege): Ho
07 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (didigoose): Oy!
07 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (dude1234dude): lol
07 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Venetia): Anyone Italian between us?
08 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (champ11228): Italian-American here
08 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: (Rancher): me too, my mom's family is pure Italian
08 Jun 14 UTC Spring, 1454: game on!

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