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13 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: Hi everybody, pleasant game and happy stabbing!
13 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: Let battle commence...
13 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: To England: Shall we DMZ the Channel? No need to fight right off the bat. Also, can I have Morocco? To Germany: I shall be taking Belgium. I do not oppose your capture of the Netherlands if you recognize the waffle factory as mine. Also, shall we DMZ the Rhineland and Essen? If you don't like those, I am up for negotiation. I'm going to let you and Italy sort out Switzerland. To Italy: I would like a DMZ of Turin, although I'm willing to refine and negotiate if you are dissatisfied. On a related note, any move to the Cote D'Azure or the Balearic Sea will be taken as an act of war. I shall reciprocate with regards to the Tyrrhenian Sea and Sea of Sicily. Two more notes: Shall we bounce in Tunis this turn? and I'm not interfering in Switzerland, so you and Germany can sort out Switzerland. Soviet Union: Salutations, comrade!
14 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: France, I agree to the Channel DMZ and Morocco and let's take it from there. But if you gain four builds as you claim (assuming Basque and Valencia also), who would feel comfortable as England? Or Italy, or Germany... You would have to break agreements with at least one of us in year 2 to gain any ground. So I'd be more willing to cooperate if you sacrifice one build somehow.
14 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: You get 4 builds as well - Cairo, Iraq, Northern Ireland, and Portugal. Germany gets the Netherlands, Denmark, Lithuania, Warsaw, and one other, and then maybe Switzerland for 5 or 6. Italy gets Benghazi, Tunis, Tirana, Salzburg, and Croatia, plus maybe Switzerland, also for maybe 5 or 6. My builds are at or below all other countries I border, and so I see no reason for complaint. As for having to attack someone, we all have to do that, yes? but there is absolutely no reason to antagonize anyone from the get-go,
14 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: Greetings all, France - Belgium is yours and will remain uncontested, I will capture the Netherlands this turn. May I propose that the DMZ is altered to include the Rhineland, Lorraine, and Champagne. Netherlands and Belgium can support each other once we have seized the SCs. Italy - Switzerland will be uncontested. I see this as naturally your SC. Feel free to occupy. I do, however, see Austria as German territory, including Salzburg. Britain - I propose that Skagerrack is recognised as German waters, and is respected as such. Russia - as per France's proposal above, I will be going for Lithuania this turn, however respect Russia's claim to Estonia and Latvia.
14 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: Germany, that sounds all fair and square. I'll stay out of Skag, expecting you to stay out of North sea. France, your argument sounds solid but I can't use 5 hypothetical builds to strike against one person. You can very much do that with 4 builds. So I'm proposing a bounce in Belgium - although Germany is of course very welcome to support me from North sea ;) which isn't unthinkable, if France and Russia are "comrades" Italy, I'm going to take Cairo now. We can split Benghazi and Tobruk in year 2? Russia, I'll be fine with you having Oslo and myself having Iceland. If we can DMZ Norwegian sea and Icelandic sea afterwards, that'd be great. In the east, I would propose that both of us don't put armies in Turkey - except from Istanbul, when you take it.
14 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: England, I see no reason for you and I to attack each other right now aside from spite. Also, why do you say you cannot attack with 5 builds? Are they all going to be parked in Iceland? It's completely mysterious to me why you say that. Germany, I would add to your proposed DMZ Essen, and I think you mean Luxembourg instead of Lorraine. Is it acceptable for me to enter Champagne this turn so that I can secure Belgium from a possible English attack? I will leave in the fall.
15 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: "Why do you say you cannot attack with five builds" If I wasn't clear: I can't put all my five builds to good use in attacking YOU, the second year. Let alone four, if I get four. YOU can use 4 builds all against ME. The second year. I'm not happy if someone plays dumb with me; nor have I failed to read between the lines in your first posting, claiming everything and offering nothing, to anyone (apart from the obvious) So, here's the deal: if English Channel is DMZ'd and we bounce Belgium the first year, we're good - possibly even firm allies. If not, I consider you an acute threat and take anyone's proposal in killing you. - Not too concerned with everyone reading this; since I'm everyone's neighbour with 3 splits regions; I'd like to have some clarity in the alliance structure right away :)
15 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: I also cannot put all my builds into attacking you. At most I can have have one fleet less in the Atlantic next year than you have now. I believe I have only demanded one thing, asked for one, and let two other countries sort out another - could you quote something I said that justifies your claim of demanding everything and offering nothing? As for your terms of a possible alliance, I note that we already have a DMZ in the Channel (that I offered, no less!). Are you there any other terms that you are willing to take in exchange for the Belgian bounce? Portugal, the Canaries, and DMZ in Andalusia and Galicia, perhaps?
15 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: Also, I'm worried that the Italians and Soviets have not spoken much, and at least one of them has not entered moves. As much as I like talking with you, England, I think we need some more people talking.
15 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: With the last comment, I couldn't agree more. Let's hear what everybody has to say first, before I react, but I have to say this sounds a lot more constructive!
15 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: @France - reference your comment on Essen, okay I am amenable to this, however I am in the same position and will be using it to move armies this turn. And apologies I do mean Lorraine. Once established that whole Rhine / Ardennes area should be quite a comforting strip of demilitarised land. I also concur that the Italian and the Russian are being conspicuously absent here.
15 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: *Luxembourg (got it wrong twice!)
15 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: Ok, Good to know with regards to our DMZ. Do you mind if I enter Champagne to guarantee my possession of Belgium, since it's too early to fully trust anyone to not bounce me out of Belgium? I will leave in the fall, assuming you accept.
15 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: Sounds good to me, I am in a similar situation with Essen.
16 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: Ok. I don't mind about you in Essen this turn, as long as you're out by the fall. It looks like Italy and the Soviets are both NMRing despite their 3 days to get moves in. :\|
16 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: England I agree with your dmz suggestions in the north and the army less turkey Germany I find the split of the Baltic states proposed agreeable And hello to my French comrade :)
16 Aug 20 UTC	Spring, 1938: Watch out for pirates
17 Aug 20 UTC	Autumn, 1938: England: I'm taking Belgium, and I hope it doesn't offend you excessively. If it will, please tell me so that we can resolve this is a peaceful manner. Germany: I'm leaving Champagne this turn, so you don't need to worry about that. I expect that Essen is evacuated this turn as well. Italy: I don't think there are many pirates left between our two navies. Perhaps we could keep our navies separate. I'll let you and Italy resolve the issue of the eastern Mediterranean, but if I could have the Cote D'Azur and the Balearic Sea, I would greatly appreciate it. Russia: I can't think of anything to say. Do you have any questions or requests?

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