Finally a new variant: A modern Europe.
Quite an impressive first release from Kurt.

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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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Devonian (1871 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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butterhead (975 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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kaner406 (1361 D Mod (B) (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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MagicalSand (1012 D)
Tue 26 Nov UTC
Lose less points when you replace a player?
Should we really lose as many points when let's say. You replace a player who is in a decent position. Only to upon entering the game automatically start in a terrible position. And then lose 20 points in a game you had 0 chance of surviving in. Should you really lose those 20 points? What If you lost less points when replacing a player to make it less damaging when you start in terrible positions. What you guys think?
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ingebot (1931 D)
Sun 01 Dec UTC
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The IST province in modern Europe
It appears that there are two IST provinces (Istria and Istanbul). For Istria, that doesn't look like Italy's modern borders, especially as it removes Slovenia's existing coast in today's world.
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ingebot (1931 D)
Tue 03 Dec UTC
My games
What happened to "my games" on the homepage?
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Lei Saarlainen (1015 D)
Tue 03 Dec UTC
transform option in europa renovatio
i want to know if this rule implemented and if yes how to do it ?
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Macca573 (1133 D)
23 Nov 19 UTC
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Improving Fog Of War
Fog of war applies to a few maps, classic, 1998, and such; but it seems like a simple add in. How hard would it be to get FoW as a setting rather than variant property? I would think there are many maps and games I would like to try with it, but it's only on a few things. There are also some variants like Rat Wars, that can only be done in FoW. Just wondering if this was a possibility?
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Macca573 (1133 D)
Mon 25 Nov UTC
Balance in Economy
There is a variant called Classic - Economic
https://vdiplomacy.net/variants.php?variantID=53
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No one is taking over CDed nations.
No one is taking over civil disordered nations.
Mr. Finkelmuiyer (1202 D)
15 Nov 19 UTC
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No one is taking over civil disordered nations. That may be slight hyperbole, but to my knowledge, there are currently 23 open positions in ongoing games due to people being kicked out of them.

Confession: I once abruptly left the site for personal reasons. This resulted in 4 CDs. When I returned to the site, I had to work to get my reliability rating up from a 78 (I think, this was years ago) back to a 96. I think I was at 97 right before the new changes were implemented. The way that I restored the site's faith in me was this: I joined games that others had left, and I played them. It didn't matter if the position was crumbling; when I took over a position, I played it to the best of my ability.

And open spots in games were hard to come by in those days- there were others, who, having been kicked out of their games, and having their game-joining ability limited because of their sloppiness, wanted to join more games. The only mechanism by which they could increase their game cap was to take over for players who had NMRed.

With the new reliability rating, there is no incentive to take over a crumbling position. Before the change, I think the most open spots that there ever were was six. Now there are twenty-three. I do not foresee that number getting better.

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Macca573 (1133 D)
15 Nov 19 UTC
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A similar system is in Webdip for reliability. However, since there is a cost to take over a CD, and they are often not in a great position, it feels like I'm just sinking points. Now that there's stricter punishments for reliability, maybe it would be a good idea to remove that.
I don't fully know, maybe the mods know some statistic that shows why this is a bad idea.
HundoL (1036 D)
15 Nov 19 UTC
Taking over a chair in Webdip is free.
Macca573 (1133 D)
15 Nov 19 UTC
A Chair?
Strider (1395 D)
15 Nov 19 UTC
A chair is the place at the table.

Macca573 (1133 D)
15 Nov 19 UTC
Now I'm really confused....
WiJaMa (1442 D)
16 Nov 19 UTC
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I usually only pick up CDs that have good positions because the end result will affect my rating and and any NMR with will result in a CD.
I think this latter point is the worse of the two, as it puts you at risk of drastically decreasing your reliability rating and that probably disincentives a lot of people.
CCR (1667 D)
16 Nov 19 UTC
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That's it, WJM. Bringing rating oriented players to take over ''bad''positions is so simple! And usually these players are fierce, especially if any result they get is counted positively. Simple solution: the rating of the replacing player is not affected negatively, but, if he gets any points, then only the positive points count. Also, the negative result is always counted for the replaced power. Furthermore, the points should be divided pro rata, i.e. the guy who played the winning power until 1910 gets 2/3 of the points and the guy who took it over from 1910 to 1915 gets one third. This example is not exact you just got what I mean.
mouse (1802 D)
17 Nov 19 UTC
The current method for handling the player that left (even defeated players count as having defeated them) works fine, no need to fudge things by giving them partial credit if their replacement goes on to do well.
kevdog8 (1645 D)
17 Nov 19 UTC
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Agree with WiJaMa, I love picking up CDs in decent positions and would happily take over and play out poorer positions if I wouldn't lose rating, as CCR suggests.
CCR (1667 D)
18 Nov 19 UTC
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It's a pity the community doesn't seem interested in this subject.
Having abandoned positions filled, and filled with quality, should be an important matter for the site.
CCR (1667 D)
18 Nov 19 UTC
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Last time I brought this up, I had to accept the argument that "after all, we don't have a CD problem in this site, as you can check in the 'open positions' section." I was silenced after this argument, but it seems it's not valid any more. It was a weak argument, as it's proven side the situation remains the same since Mr. Fink brought it to our attention. And it is related to other singularities related to the nmr policy, discussed in recent threads in the forum.
Frozen Dog (1782 D)
18 Nov 19 UTC
I agree with this as an issue. It's just so hard to justify taking over positions. :(
ubercacher16 (1818 D)
18 Nov 19 UTC
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I have taken over a bunch of CDs. Only the ones that were overwhelmingly good positions though.
tobi1 (1951 D Mod (S) (B))
18 Nov 19 UTC
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Full agreement that the CD situation is a problem with the current state of the NMR system. Unfortunately we currently have nobody available to address this issue in near future. But I still have plans to overwork the whole system for vdip at some point within the next months. All that is said here will be taken into account.
G-Man (2297 D)
18 Nov 19 UTC
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+1 CCR

And the benefits of taking over CDs, especially those with bad positions, should be made very clear in the Open Positions area.
ScubaSteve (1336 D)
18 Nov 19 UTC
On a related note, when someone NMRs, maybe everyone's choices and diplomacy is frozen and the player coming in (hopefully incentivized as discussed above) has to enter moves immediately?

Might speed things up a bit. Just a thought. Might be some problems with it I have missed.
KingOfSwords (1098 D)
18 Nov 19 UTC
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@tobi1 - Here's one detail to take into account. Currently, when a player takes over a country in CD, they get zero delays, because that's what the previous player had when put into CD. I think it would be much better to give them the same number of delays that players get when the game first starts.
Macca573 (1133 D)
19 Nov 19 UTC
But that could cause infinite delays, if the new player is inactive. I've seen it before, 3 Italys all CD'd
BobMcBob (1239 D)
19 Nov 19 UTC
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That's nothing! I was once in a game where 8 Italies CD'd, 6 were in the space of three years. If we'd given them all the delays back the game would've taken at least a week longer to complete. I think the idea that has already been proposed of being able to earn back excused missed turns is good though.
Pope (1045 D)
20 Nov 19 UTC
Another possibility is having a few "vacuum players" that will suck up all of the badly positioned nations and take a hit for the rest of us. Personally, I don't care that much about my rating + I'd like to improve, so I've been taking a lot of these nations with no hope to see if I can turn anything around.
Hopefully some other people feel the same way so we can get these games going!
Synarus (730 D)
20 Nov 19 UTC
I am not a very reliable player, life gets in the way. BUT I liked being able to work off my unreliability by picking up other CD's. I tried to do this after the new system, picked up 4 or so CD's. I missed one or two phases because of unexpected work and got booted off the site for 5 days.

So I'm not going to be picking up any more CD's


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Macca573 (1133 D)
22 Oct 19 UTC
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Betrayal
Diplomacy is a game about betrayal, but how can you avoid other players raging at you when you betray them?
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The Ambassador (1652 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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gopher27 (1226 D Mod)
09 Nov 19 UTC
Was the Munich Agreement a British diplomatic coup in 1938?
Neville Chamberlain died on 11/9/1940. Chamberlain's brother had won the Nobel Prize for Locarno, which has explicitly stated that the UK viewed Germany's Eastern border open for revision and was only committed to defending Germany's Western border. Other than getting Hitler's signature on an agreement that he then violate in less than 6 months, I see no other way that Chamberlain could have gotten a treaty with Poland ratified or instituted peace time conscription in a democratic society.
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AJManso4 (1288 D)
07 Nov 19 UTC
Ben SC in Rinascimento Variant
As the Ben SC cannot move, however, when it is dislodged can it retreat anywhere? Or is it forced to disband?
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Arado (1174 D)
08 Nov 19 UTC
vDiplomacy-points scoring
I am still quite new to this website and I am confused on how the scoring works.
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Flame (1052 D (B))
07 Nov 19 UTC
DNWC 2020 ?
Is there any ideas about Diplomacy National World Cup in 2020?
I wish Stabbeurfou.org initiate it already!
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CptMike (1229 D)
20 Aug 19 UTC
FvA championship
Hello,

I propose to launch a FvA championship with 5 players.
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Strider (1395 D)
29 Oct 19 UTC
Reliability rating penaltys
Discuss
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Map
Can somebody make this a map?
I asked in the mod forum and nobody has answered me yet.
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https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1qsAbeu_9T5cpzqAqK2UgULrH56BWqUVtcysYosyokc8/comment
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Lei Saarlainen (1015 D)
21 Oct 19 UTC
Ready / Non Ready
for be ready what i must read ?
is not a stupid question it can be
1/ i read ready so mean i am ready
2/ i read redy so i must push the button for be ready
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ingebot (1931 D)
17 Sep 19 UTC
Suggestions for Europa Renovatio to be improved
Firstly, I'd like to congrat and thank Technostar on making an amazing variant. I've just got a few suggestions for improvement:
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Maps
How do I create maps?
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umbletheheep (1000 D)
18 Oct 19 UTC
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New Weekly Diplomacy Newsletter
Hey guys. I've started a weekly diplomacy email. The goal is to keep everyone updated on the current events going on across the community both online and the local scene. I'll also be including weekly strategy articles. You can see the past issues and subscribe here https://bit.ly/2mvDOTX

I hope you'll sign up, but I also wanted to hear what are some things you'd like to see. Be sure to keep me updated also with new variants so I can announce them. Thanks!
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BobMcBob (1239 D)
26 Aug 19 UTC
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Did GvR just get removed?
And why was it a variant in the first place?
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Mittag (1624 D)
15 Oct 19 UTC
Scoring systems?
The "create new games"-page currently has WTA and PPSC as the two options for scoring systems.
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diplopoet (990 D)
08 Oct 19 UTC
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Anonymous games
I've noticed that most of the new games on this website are set to "anonymous". Why is that? Why do the people setting up new games like "anonymous" so much?
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Frozen Dog (1782 D)
08 Oct 19 UTC
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What happens if you lose all of your units but still control a non-home supply centre?
I don't mean according to the Calhamer ruleset, but on this site; would you be defeated or live on as a zombie completely at the mercy of others?
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Flame (1052 D (B))
10 Oct 19 UTC
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14th Century Mongolian Empire NEW TEST
Some bugs are already fixed but we need more testitng. Please join just to move units and discuss the errors.

http://lab.webdiplomacy.ru/board.php?gameID=118
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tobi1 (1951 D Mod (S) (B))
03 Oct 19 UTC
Looking for new moderators
We are looking for new members of the moderator team:
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