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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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Argentinean Empire (1621 D)
29 Mar 20 UTC
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Tournament: Cold War II
Welcome to the sequel to 2018’s Cold War tournament. Has it really been two years? Let’s get started.
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Devonian (1871 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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bsiper (1301 D)
07 May 20 UTC
Variant Dev Thread: New York
Hello, does anyone want to join the first playtest of the New York variant?
https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=43373
Comment here if you want in, and I'll PM the password!
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butterhead (975 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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The Ambassador (2233 D (B) (B))
11 Apr 20 UTC
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Big Hitters vDip game
I'm interested in creating a new game for players with 2000+ vDip points. Password protected.

If you meet this criteria let me know here that you're interested. Once we know how many players, we can decide which variant etc.
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The Ambassador (2233 D (B) (B))
Sat 27 Jun UTC
Tiger King themed game
Hi folks - started a new game that I'm keen to get people's thoughts on...
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DaveSpermbank (978 D)
Tue 30 Jun UTC
How do I add a new variant?
I have a new idea for a variant, and i would like to submit it. What are the requirements, etc? Thanks!
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Swede03 (1097 D)
Fri 26 Jun UTC
Difference between Fog of War and Classic
I was looking at the stats for Classic Fog of War and comparing them to the stats for classic
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ubercacher16 (1623 D)
Mon 22 Jun UTC
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Live Chaos
Join this live chaos game for the funzies.

https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=44095
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umbletheheep (1000 D)
Mon 22 Jun UTC
Nexus Gunboat Tournament
Signups end on June 28th. Go to https://discord.gg/P5vyvz8 to join.
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DaveSpermbank (978 D)
Sun 21 Jun UTC
How do i access private messages?
It is pretty simple on webdip. how do i get to them on here? thx
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SenatorButtstuff (1056 D)
Sun 21 Jun UTC
Need some help with understanding the 'extends due to missed turns' mechanism
Hi All!

So, I have a turn I just missed (I'm a bad person). What surprised me is that the turn processed with all of my units having "hold" orders.
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Anon (?? D)
19 Jun 20 UTC
Testing
https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=44297

hi
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Fastest way to find a mod
Need to get one urgently.
How?
Thanks.
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umbletheheep (1000 D)
14 Jun 20 UTC
Nexus Cold War Tournament
Looks like the Nexus is going to do a Cold War tournament too (they did one last summer also) in a week or so. So if you want a second chance or just really love Cold War you can go to https://discord.gg/P5vyvz8.
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North America Minor Powers
So far it seems pretty balanced but I may need to run another test to make sure.

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Caustic (1161 D)
12 Jun 20 UTC
Help
Can some tell me all that is needed to create a variety or point me in the right direction?
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The Ambassador (2233 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
10 Jun 20 UTC
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New Dip AI Article
If you are interested: https://venturebeat.com/2020/06/10/deepmind-hopes-to-teach-ai-to-cooperate-by-playing-diplomacy/amp/
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WumbologyDude (1000 D)
12 Jun 20 UTC
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Touchy Diplomacy
I'm not sure if I can advertise games on this forum but I started a Touchy diplomacy game called Touchy Diplomacy. I've really wanted to try it out so I would love it if I could get some people to get the game started!
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CalvinWallC (1203 D)
05 Jun 20 UTC
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Black Lives Matter
I saw that WebDip has put a little header on their website in support of Black Lives Matter and the protests in the United States. I thought it was a really good way to use their platform for good and I was wondering if Vdip could do something similar?
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ScubaSteve (1347 D)
06 Jun 20 UTC
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My only real point is that people have only really been falling all over themselves to make sure everyone sees that they are not racist for a couple of weeks.

If you've joined the not racist bandwagon two weeks ago, you shouldn't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

In my view, "taking a stand" is only impressive when it isn't popular.

That said, its the decision of the owner of the site. I don't think we have a right to demand to know who that owner is. They are giving us this site that I play on and I appreciate them very much for it. They don't owe us any explanations for anything.
Agnaar (2922 D)
07 Jun 20 UTC
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A random criminal being accidentally killed by a random overexcited cop...sad for sure but there are much bigger injustices committed all over the world every second. Probably not enough space here to put a banner for each of them.
pancake (955 D)
07 Jun 20 UTC
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By this point I would not judge people in minieapolis if they would ask for refugee status in Canada... The USA is having nationalist riots. Hopefully they can de-escelate it quickly. the police in miniapolis should probably be replaced by new cops, but the protesters should also stop joining looting parties and riots, and they should defenitly not be outside when the government ordered them not too, and there is a plauge going on. that is the thing with nationalist fighting: everyone are the bad guys.
Obviously, the killing of george floyd is inexuceble, but it seems it was just a bad police department, not systematically against against americans who happen to have a darker skin and ancestors in africa.
CBro27 (926 D)
07 Jun 20 UTC
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If y'all think all these protests going on around the US and the rest of the world are about one specific incident you are missing the point by an astonishing margin.
a_mercurial_git (928 D)
07 Jun 20 UTC
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@Scuba: Folks are being shot in the street for taking a stand. How less popular do you want it to get?
CBro27 (926 D)
07 Jun 20 UTC
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Also, @Calvin that was really well spoken and I think Spartan's point is critical in all of this as well.
Agnaar (2922 D)
07 Jun 20 UTC
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Nobody is questioning or diminishing the importance of your cause but there are plenty others. If they put a banner for yours they should accept to put one as well for others upon requests.
There is not enough room for it here and it s not the purpose of this website anyway.
Bonatogether (1271 D)
07 Jun 20 UTC
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+1 Agnaar
Retillion (2221 D (B))
07 Jun 20 UTC
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jmo1121109 wrote :
"we don't view fighting for equal human rights as political"

On the contrary : every fight for, or against, something is political, especially if that something is related to rights.
CalvinWallC (1203 D)
08 Jun 20 UTC
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Thanks CBro, I'm just hoping people engaged with my points in good faith, despite some evidence to the contrary haha! I'm also hoping that everyone in this thread might do a bit of reading on current events and the history of the US as a system built to disadvantage POC, specifically Black people, and maybe even challenge the status quo narratives surrounding policing/racism in the States because everyone can always do more.
Battalion (2002 D)
09 Jun 20 UTC
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Anyone who has access to Netflix should watch "13th" - it's a very interesting perspective that I was previously ignorant of.
CalvinWallC (1203 D)
09 Jun 20 UTC
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+1 Battalion
CalvinWallC (1203 D)
10 Jun 20 UTC
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Just going to bump this to the top of the forum list again, for visibility
ingebot (2370 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
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I don't think the vdip community has any history of racism, and so I think a statement in support of black lives matter would be unnecessary on this platform. However, there does seem to be a general assumption (I have no idea to what extent accurate) that everyone here is male. I think maybe a statement in support of female vdip players would be more directly relevant to this site.
Battalion (2002 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
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That's a great point, ingebot - I've got tired of reminding other players that not everyone here is male (though I am myself). I'm often reminded that not everyone's first language is English, but I think awareness could still be improved.

I'd be cautious about hijacking this thread, though.
Swede03 (1097 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
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I'd agree that doing that is way less apolitical and more relevant to the site, either supporting female players or non-English speaking players
ezpickins (1795 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
I agree with ingebot, but think that it is equally political to post about supporting female players and non-English speaking players. That is, it is a rights and equality issue rather than a "politics" issue
Chumbles (1070 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
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I would prefer a statement that is inclusive of all disadvantaged groups. I was and am appalled at the events in the US, and I would certainly endorse the sentiments that call for fair and equitable treatment for all people irrespective of their racial origin, class, creed, colour or sexual orientation.

But I am not a fan of the historical revisionism that is taking past events out of context ... it's very dangerous and is precisely the sort of thing that Chairman Mao practiced. HBO's withdrawal of Gone With the Wind, will doubtless be followed by similar excisions of works taken out of context. George Washington owned 317 slaves at his death; Dickens was racist (vis. Fagin et al), etc.

Quota methods of ensuring fairness not only don't work, as Adidas are introducing, because they don't address the institutional racism that employs disproportionately more white folk, that same institutional racism will likely provide a dangerous and unpleasant workplace for those who are employed to fill those quotas. Considered, constructive thought is required.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it - George Santayana.
ubercacher16 (1623 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
+1 ingebot.
CBro27 (926 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
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@Chumbles: I think a lot of people right now are missing the difference between "erasing" certain aspects of history and "celebrating" them. Personally I'm glad Gone With The Wind is going back on HBO with a contextual writeup. But it's important to note that taking down confederate statues or banning confederate flags isn't "forgetting" our history, it's just finally ceasing to celebrate American traitors in prominent places. Much of the historical revisionism regarding the civil war came and continues to come from the south who put up these statues as late as the 1960s to celebrate the "noble lost cause" and to continue to enforce the racial social hierarchy.
Chumbles (1070 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
That's a fair point, CBro27, and I agree with it, but by the same token the Founding Fathers should also be contextualised. There's so much that needs this contextual treatment - here in the UK, the Opium Wars tends used to be treated as an historical aberration rather than an unprincipled attempt to counterbalance the trade deficit due to Chinese porcelain and tea exports; French, and American traders joined in and thus the growing, processing and smuggling of the opium poppy spread quickly throughout the Near to Far East... and this trade has morphed into a horrible and deadly disease that 'infects' the world to this day ...
CBro27 (926 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
I totally agree. I remember as a kid my family did a tour of Mount Vernon and during the very brief time we spent at the former slave quarters, it was presented as "Well it sucks they were slaves but at least they got to live on this beautiful estate and hang out with the father of our nation."
@Chumbles: speaking of the Opium Wars, some people in Hong Kong (where I live) actually subscribe to (and promote) the idea that the UK waged the Opium Wars in order to save the Chinese population from consuming opium o.O
*UK protecting the natural right to be a junkie.
ubercacher16 (1623 D)
12 Jun 20 UTC
Yeah, the British Empire was pretty progressive on drug policy.
Alexj90 (1430 D)
12 Jun 20 UTC
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Agree wholeheartedly with the OP. The internet can be a pretty toxic place, so it's nice to know that any particular site is explicitly against racism. Also really important stuff being said here about making women, or non-male people in general, feel welcome here, but it feels a bit cynical to use this moment to do that


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Macca573 (1174 D)
27 Feb 20 UTC
Around the World Tournament
Come one, come all, to the newest tournament to hit V-dip's pages.

The Around the World Tournament!
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OrdinalSean (998 D)
12 Jun 20 UTC
What is a "turn"?
I was just wondering what counts as a turn, for example for "extend the first X turns". Is "Spring 1901" a turn, or does it count all phases, or does it count the movement and build phases but not retreat?
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Lukas Podolski (1613 D)
11 Jun 20 UTC
Perfidious Zine
Issue 3 was out in May, does anyone know if Issue 4 is out yet?
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Fake Al (1752 D)
11 Apr 20 UTC
Bronze Age Diplomacy Development
New variant being developed in collaboration with a player from Discord. Set in 1350 BC.
https://vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=142
Will probably be looking to run a test soon.
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AJManso4 (1404 D)
03 Jun 20 UTC
Reliability
Is it possible to increase reliability rating? I know i can take over games to get unexcused turns back, but does that increase reliability?
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Player5 (1916 D)
14 Mar 20 UTC
Variant development questions (Pits of Horror)
Hello! I'm trying to develop a new variant and would like some help debugging some things. If anyone wants to help I would be very happy!!

I have uploaded a map.png, and a mapNames.png but I still can't see anything in the "Map" interface (some error gets thrown)?
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Anon (?? D)
06 Jun 20 UTC
Cllasic game - all SC's are contries
please join this game:
https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=44026
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d.a.barchipelago (866 D)
26 May 20 UTC
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Suggestion: Close chat option
On large variants, having lots of chats open makes the mobile interface quite cumbersome. It'd be nice if we could close chats, or if chats with dead people closed automatically.
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