Let's start a new round of variants with Punic Wars (based on Sail Ho).
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Enriador (1431 D (B))
16 May 18 UTC
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Classic Redrawn
I got bothered with some of the historical inaccuracies of the Classic map - like French Corsica being painted Italian green - so I went on and redrawed the entire map.
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kaner406 (1500 D Mod (B) (B))
10 Mar 18 UTC
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Bourse 2018
See below:
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Enriador (1431 D (B))
04 Apr 18 UTC
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'Edwardian' - A new variant
Greetings diplomats.

I present you @VaeVictis's 'Edwardian' - an upcoming jewel to vDiplomacy's glorious crown. 'Edwardian' is set in 1901, the start of the Edwardian Era, and represents the intrigue and tension of the period with a level of elegance and detail never seen before
Enriador (1431 D (B))
04 Apr 18 UTC

'Edwardian' was partially inspired by Baron Powell's '1900', but it's a very different variant - there are 50 supply centers to conquer, and the map is replete with opportunities for war and diplomacy alike.

That's the variant's map: https://i.imgur.com/ePeeunq.gif

For more details and information, check the variant's page on the PlayDiplomacy.com Forum: https://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=413&t=57471;
VaeVictis (1000 D)
05 Apr 18 UTC
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Salutations vDiplomacy players,

I am new to vDiplomacy, but have frequented PlayDiplomacy for the past few years. 'Edwardian' has been about 4 years in the making (on and off) and dates back to a somewhat half-baked attempt to alter some aspects of Classic and Powell's '1900' in a variant originally called '1905: Europe.'

This iteration of 'Edwardian' that Enriador has been so kind to code and promote here is the 2nd edition of that variant and has been markedly altered from its original inception. As Enriador mentioned, it is larger than Classic or '1900' and has purposely been expanded to accentuate the historical advantages in military strengths and geographical advantages of the early 20th century great powers. By increasing the overall number of pieces available to each power, larger powers demonstrate fully their predominance while not hampering the openings of the smaller powers too badly.

There are three (arbitrarily styled) classes of powers: the Continental Leviathans (Germany & Russia); the Colonial Empires (Britain & France); the Second Tier States (Austria-Hungary, Italy, & Turkey).

Germany and Russia possess 6 centers to begin with, but are either cursed with a contested and central location (Germany) or limited in the number of secure neutral centers to capture first year (Russia). These two powers were granted greater initial clout because of Germany's industrial might and Russia's seemingly inexhaustible man-power.

Britain and France possess 5 centers to begin the game that are spread across the map with each maintaining a colonial exclave (Algiers & Cairo). These produce uniquely challenging and beneficial opportunities for openings, reflecting the reality that Britain and France were the premier colonial empires of the early 20th century.

Austria-Hungary, Italy, and Turkey each possess 4 centers at game start that are either arranged in compact initial setups or stronger openings to potential neutral supply centers. They represent the second-class great powers that dwarfed their smaller neighbors, but lacked the preeminent strength of the more vital empires in Europe. The reasons for these constraints ranged from poor industrial infrastructure (Italy), to the entropy of ethnic nationalism (Austria-Hungary), to simply being a slowly dilapidating husk of a formerly formidable Mohammedan empire (Turkey).

I will be monitoring this thread for any questions.

Enjoy,

VaeVictis
Enriador (1431 D (B))
05 Apr 18 UTC
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Side note: 'Edwardian' will launch with full support for the 'Interactive Map' feature! For those who don't know it, it allows you to send orders by clicking on the map itself. Especially useful for larger variants with many spaces (and units) to send orders to.
G-Man (2365 D)
05 Apr 18 UTC
Enriador on a roll -- thanks for all the hard work!!
kaner406 (1500 D Mod (B) (B))
05 Apr 18 UTC
o_O

wow! keep up the awesome work Enriador!
The man is a MACHINE!
Enriador (1431 D (B))
05 Apr 18 UTC
Porting 'Edwardian' was what pushed me to learn about making variants here for vDip, so I am equally happy - we will playing it soon!
Enriador (1431 D (B))
05 Apr 18 UTC
@Oli

I need to insert "Austria-Hungary" as a power, but the dev-tools don't allow "-" as a valid symbol.
Enriador (1431 D (B))
05 Apr 18 UTC
@Oli,

By accident, Morocco and Persia didn't have unique colors in smallmap. I uploaded a new smallmap but they are still colored like before.
Oli (977 D Mod (P))
05 Apr 18 UTC
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@Enriador:
I added "-" to the allowed chars for the countrynames.
Morocco now has the same color as Ukarine. You need to change the color-mode back from "indexed" to "RGB" before you change the color and save as indexed-color after changing the countryColors. Once you save as indexed PNG you can't add another color. I have uploaded a corrcted version of your map.
Enriador (1431 D (B))
05 Apr 18 UTC
Thanks Oli, everything is working now!
Enriador (1431 D (B))
05 Apr 18 UTC
@Oli

The bulk of 'Edwardian' is done. Two important things left:

1) The variant has a special rule: Gibraltar is a coastal space where both armies and fleets can enter, but a fleet in Gibraltar is allowed to convoy as if the space was a sea.

2) There are several unit sprites, unique for each power. I already uploaded them.
Sky_Hopper (983 D)
05 Apr 18 UTC
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Interesting touch, with the unit in Gibraltar instead of Ireland.
VaeVictis (1000 D)
06 Apr 18 UTC
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@Sky_Hopper,

Having F Gib supplied from Belfast is originally from Powell's "1900" (as far as I know; there may be an earlier manifestation of it than that, but I'm not sure)--though "1900's" F Gib is supplied from Liverpool . As you mentioned, it is an interesting aspect and well worth emulating in other variants, which is why I employed in 'Edwardian'. The same concept is also applied to A Lor, F Apu, and A Mac which all represent beginning positions that apart from their supply center (I explain this in more detail on the PlayDiplomacy development thread here: https://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=413&t=57471).
Enriador (1431 D (B))
12 Apr 18 UTC
Hello folks,

'Edwardian' is ready, only left is polishing a couple of things. Here's a preview of the map! https://imgur.com/a/bICtU
Anon (?? D)
15 Apr 18 UTC
It's alive!

Full Press until 1907: http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=34489
Retillion (2221 D (B))
16 Apr 18 UTC
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Thank you very much, Enriador, for all your great work !
VaeVictis (1000 D)
16 Apr 18 UTC
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Thanks again Enriador for all the hard work in bringing this variant to vDiplomacy.

As before, I'll be lurking on this thread for any questions.
Enriador (1431 D (B))
16 Apr 18 UTC
It's a pleasure! I hope you guys enjoy it.

Gunboat games:
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=34492
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=34494
GOD (1709 D Mod (B))
16 Apr 18 UTC
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I love it! One thing though, in the variant description it says that Sweden does not have two coasts, as classic supposedly does, which to my knowledge it doesn't...did I get something wrong here? 0.o
Enriador (1431 D (B))
16 Apr 18 UTC
Hi @God, I am glad you liked it!

From the variant description:

>Denmark does not split the coast of Sweden (as in Classic Diplomacy).<

It means that Denmark not splitting Sweden's coast is exactly like Classic.
Enriador (1431 D (B))
16 Apr 18 UTC
So, "as in Classic Diplomacy" means that whatever comes before ("Denmark does not split the coast of Sweden") *also* happens in Classic. Though I guess it could have been phrased in a less ambiguous way!.
GOD (1709 D Mod (B))
17 Apr 18 UTC
Aaaah, okay, I get it, my bad :D
Looks great! If only I wasn't in so many games!!!
ezpickins (1480 D)
18 Apr 18 UTC
The click interface for Morocco wasn't working properly yesterday. With Oli's comment about Ukraine/Morocco it might have been fixed since then.
Enriador (1431 D (B))
18 Apr 18 UTC
I think it's fixed now @ezpickins.
JECE (1184 D)
22 Apr 18 UTC
Wow! This even includes Montenegro.
Enriador (1431 D (B))
22 Apr 18 UTC
Isn't it awesome? I am quite tired of all those variants making Austria annex Montenegro. =P
Enriador (1431 D (B))
Mon 09 Jul UTC
Do you prefer Southern Algeria to be colored French blue (following Algiers' owner), or grey? Remember it's impassable.
The Ambassador (1633 D (B) (B))
Mon 09 Jul UTC
As discussed in the podcast I'd like to see this with African territories you can move through to break any nexus in Cairo. But that's just from my personal experience, others may very much disagree.
G-Man (2365 D)
Mon 09 Jul UTC
Since it's impassible, I would vote the same as Arabia. However, like the Ambassador, I'm wondering if it's essential it be impassible in the first place.
Enriador (1431 D (B))
Tue 10 Jul UTC
I think it was @kaner who pointed out in the podcast that Egypt being a "nexus" increased its relevance. Remember that the Suez Canal, located in Egypt, was pretty much the heart of the British Empire and a key location, fought hardly for in both world wars.

I am not the variant creator (you should ask @VaeVictis himself about that) so I am limiting myself to cosmetic changes.
VaeVictis (1000 D)
09:09 PM UTC
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@The Ambassador & G-Man (and anyone interested),

I'm a little late to this party, but here's my two cents:

As Enriador wrote, part of the map's design is to emphasize Cairo. I listened to the podcast and understand the concerns here. The scenario that was discussed in the podcast is honestly something I had never considered and what you addressed is a legitimate concern. The reason I wanted to have the impassable African territories was to offer more security to the British possession in Egypt because of its isolation (the idea for wrap-around Atlantic and Indian Ocean spaces, by the way, was lifted from some of Charles Feaux de la Croix's variants). My only fear in making some of the impassable territories playable is that it will not only hurt Britain, but also Italy. Britain and France have the advantage of home SCs in Africa while Italy can only establish a foothold across a single space sea axis through Central Mediterranean. With Southern Algeria and Sahara passable, it might grant Britain and France (especially) and advantage by being able to produce and then stack pieces against a beleaguered Italian garrison at Tripolitania.

I could be off base on this (I'm not the most mathematical or analytical game player/designer. Intuition and sight are generally my guides), but this was my reasoning.

Among other things, I would also invite vDiplomacy players to visit the PlayDiplomacy thread for suggested Edwardian 3rd Edition alterations (2nd Edition is currently live here on vDiplomacy) here: https://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=413&t=57961&p=951031#p951031

Enriador has helped me considerably with this (though he refuses to take credit in the title) and is currently working on coding and porting this to vDiplomacy. Please raise any concerns or offer suggestions about balance in the PlayDiplomacy thread or here on vDiplomacy.

Notable changes include:

A reordering of British spaces. This is aimed at reducing the volatility of Britain's defensive posture in the Isles (3 SCs bordering Irish Sea, Auggh!).

A redrawing of some Atlantic spaces, most notably Bay of Biscay which is aimed at easing Anglo-French diplomacy by allowing France the option of disengaging F Bre to the Mediterranean without needing to crawl along the Iberian coast (not a very plausible scenario in most games I should warrant).

Alterations to France's spaces to provide greater security against Germany and better opportunity toward the Iberian Peninsula.

Reordering Germany and Russia's spaces to decentralize the former and cohere the latter.

And the addition of one more SC in Jabal Shammar to offer another potential build for the Ottoman Empire and to encourage more British involvement in the East (I think that Britain moved to Indian Ocean once in all of the 2nd Edition games so far).

A potential additional improvement that I have been considering is reducing to the victory total to below >50% like Powell's "1900." Of the 12 finished Edwardian games so far on this site, four have been 5 player draws and even one 7 player. That seems absurdly high and a lower victory total might facilitate more solos. However, there is differing thought on this notion since many argue that lower victory conditions actually encourage larger draws as players fear to take the risk of a solo with too many players still active.

Any thoughts?


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WWII Tournament
I would like to start a tournament. I've seen the Known World and 1v1 tournaments, and those are great fun. So why not apply it to World War II? I'm still working out the details, but I'll post some details.
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butterhead (975 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Oli (977 D Mod (P))
Mon 09 Jul UTC
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You can now access the server via https...
So friends in the same network can no longer spy on your network-traffic here to gain an advantage over you... :-)
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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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Penguin_XX7 (1029 D)
Sat 05 PM UTC
Sitters for four games.
I need game sitters for 3 Gunboat games and one full press until July 24th. Please PM me.
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Thanks to the winning thread, I lost The Game...
...and now you have too.

The perfect thread for all of us losers to post when we've lost. There can be no winners here.
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The Ambassador (1633 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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Strider (1324 D)
Mon 09 Jul UTC
Preview in fog of war
Why can't you preview your moves in fog of war? I understand that some features might need to be turned off for fog to work but it this required or just an acident.
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Antiloquax (1315 D)
23 Jun 18 UTC
Why is the red box attacking me?
The red box on games with no saved moves is stressing me out! I have 2 days. What's the emergency?
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Retillion (2221 D (B))
Tue 10 Jul UTC
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A thick and ugly blue box
Please read below.
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Enriador (1431 D (B))
22 May 18 UTC
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New Variants (yup, plural!)
Four new variants, based on Classic, will be coming to vDip!

Some of these were directly taken from the DP Judge. Others were lost in the Variant Bank for a long while.
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RVG1984 (995 D)
Mon 09 Jul UTC
sealanes
How do they work?
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Kingmaker Speech (1205 D)
Sun 01 Jul UTC
Anonymous Games
Anonymous Games grant liars a shelter to do there worst, making abusive and absurd offered and generally making me passionately hate this game, which can lead to NMRs . Having to be out there means you have to have honor, and enables revenge. I have seen allies pitch in by hopping from one neutral territory to yhe next in the name of their promises. This site seems to be for the childish.
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Devonian (1871 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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Flame (1058 D (B))
Mon 09 Jul UTC
First Diplomacy game edition 1959
Who got the photo or scan of the first Diplomacy edition board (500 pieces), 1959? Please share to be used in an article.
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nopunin10did (987 D)
18 Jun 18 UTC
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Replace PPSC with something rank-based?
I've put together a length proposal over on PlayDip to provide a rank-based scoring system for draws that's similar to the Carnage system used in several North American Dip tournaments today.

https://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=57975#p951166
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Enriador (1431 D (B))
Sat 07 Jul UTC
[New Variant] Machiavelli - To the Renaissance
New (official) subvariant of Machiavelli coming up on vDip. Not a single case of adjacent home centers - praise be God!

http://vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=115
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Enriador (1431 D (B))
25 Apr 18 UTC
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New Variant: Crusades 1201
Hail diplomats,

New 11-players variant coming up, set in the High Middle Ages.
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gremlin (1000 D)
Mon 02 Jul UTC
New Variants
Just curious, what is the process for creating new variants?
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WiJaMa (994 D)
26 Jun 18 UTC
Looking for game sitters
I'm looking for a game sitter for three games while I'm out from 1 Jul to 22 Jul. PM me for details.

Also, is there supposed to be a thread for these? I can't find it but the help page says there is one.
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ubercacher16 (1131 D)
25 Jun 18 UTC
Strategy - Hold Order
See First Post
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nopunin10did (987 D)
12 Jun 18 UTC
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At long last: 1900
With some help from Tobias & Oliver, my implementation of Baron VonPowell's "1900" is finally live.

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Looking for someone to take over my country (Not in a bad position)
Currently 13/35 countries remain and my country, Brazil, is in 8th place after some set backs with NMRs. Currently allied with the 2nd place country, Argentina, as a fight between the two of us will ultimately be the doom of our existence. Argentina has said that a substitute will not charge the alliance between our two countries.

Reply if interested in taking over.
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RVG1984 (995 D)
21 Jun 18 UTC
convert fleet to army
How do I convert a fleet to an army and the other way? I see people do it, but don't see the option on the dropdowns.
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WaitingCynicism (971 D)
20 Jun 18 UTC
Notifications by email?
Is there a way I can get email notifications for my campaigns? I haven't gotten any at all, and because of that I've lost several games.
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The Ambassador (1633 D (B) (B))
17 Jun 18 UTC
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Padlock City
What's the deal with all the padlocks that have appeared throughout my games when viewed on the vDip homepage?
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The Ambassador (1633 D (B) (B))
27 Oct 17 UTC
1066 Tournament
As discussed in episode 23 of the Diplomacy Games podcast I'm thinking of putting together a 1066 tournament. Interested takers?
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