Oooo. A while ago, we had a Grey Press game where all press was supposed to be in the form of Newspaper stories. It’s was great fun, and I think it’d Be even more fun with fog of War, because then you’d have to rely on news stories to tell you what is going on in the world even though you know you can trust all of them.

https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=36219
Could work Newspaper fog

True Grey press doesn't have to be public. It's like receiving an anonymous but private message.

No it doesn't have to be public, but what would be the point? If you can simply reach out in non-grey channels to verify anything you have been told in secret, why wouldn't you simply disbelieve everything in Grey?

You've clearly never played Grey press on the judges. Great fun.

You are quite right. In fact, I don't even know what that means...

Grey press games make all the press Grey. So everything you send and everything you receive is anon making verification impossible. But the communications are still private, you just don't know for certain who sent them.

Ah... I misunderstood the description on the variant page.

It may be different here. But that is the classic form of Grey press.

I loved playing in the Newspaper game (from way back)

Here's the thread about the Newspaper played: https://www.vdiplomacy.com/forum.php?threadID=62070&page-thread=1#threadPager

And here is the game with messages:
https://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=24273&viewArchive=Messages&page-archive=1#

Feel free to take from it that you like.

Grey Public Newspaper Fog would be just awesome! Count me in for the 1st game if we can make this happen here sometime.

Yes, that newspaper game from 2015 looks fun.

I've been looking for a 2nd game to join - count me in if you are starting a Grey Public Press Newspaper game.

I could enjoy another round of the Grey Public Press Newspaper game. Map? Phase of 2 days?

Ditto on newspaper fog!

Count me in in the newspaper game too :)

Never tried it, count me in!

So, as the site is currently set up, Grey press is not a press option as @CCR had thought, but is simply a Classic Variant, so we can't currently play in Grey-Press, Fog-of-War game.

Is this a change to the site that is simple to do, Or are we better off recreating gameID=24273?

We can set up an anonymous Fog of War game and stipulate Public Press only. That would give us Anonymous Public Newspaper Fog, which would rock!

Newspaper fog. Please join

gameID=36318

I am not going to play PPSC and at least one person who showed interest wanted longer phases so I don't think that the settings are good. Besides, I think you need more explanation for gameID=36318 so that everyone who joins knows the rules.

Wait why is it not anynomous if I include gameID=36318 in my post? :p

If you are going to be so fussy, make up your own game mercy!

Oh I just realised that the game isn't even grey press.

Are you going to pop in and out of the game and complain?

No, that is not me. And I was indeed planning to set something up myself, but I am very busy right now so I won't join a new game until November 3rd.

Yeah, since the game is about pseudo-news, I suggest longer phases so that players have both time to think of and craft fun news, announcements, features, adds... I usually play 2-day phases, but for this, would suggest 3-day phases to really maximize the press. Also would prefer WTA.

We cannot do Grey Press with Fog of War Mercy, but since we want everything told globally anyway, going Anonymous Public Press Fog of War would serve for our purpose.

I agree with your settings G-Man, though I am flexible on the phase length and I would prefer grey press, as in gameID=24273 and discussed in threadID=62070.

Well, we can play either Fog of War with Anonymous Public Press or Classic with Grey Press — but not Fog of War with Grey Press. Since the idea was to broadcast news anonymously with Fog of War so, between the audio and visual, you would have to figure out what’s true; and since broadcasting the same stories to all will make things far more interesting than being barraged by individualized anonymous press from each power, I think going Anonymous Public Press Fog of War would be best. What is everyone most interested in?

When agreed, we can post up a new game on November 3rd (we should designate one person for this).

And as Mercy said, the ‘newspaper rules’ should be clearly spelled out beforehand as well.

Hmmm... actually, anonymous wont help since the country of origin will still be known. But as I read the referred thread, Grey Press apparently let’s normal press through here. So, as in the previous game, we’d have to give up the Fog of War wisual element and play Classic Grey Press with a Gentlemen’s Agreement to post only Grey (anonymous) Public Press news stories/features/related items and no individual messages at all (even though the Classic Grey Press variant allows them).

Why not set up a grey press game public press only game (then pause the game) use that one for newspaper communication and a gunboat fog of war game? It's a little awkward but it would do the trick, it would also prevent the 'accidental' publishing of who is writing the press, given that the countries would be different in both games.

Interesting and creative solution Kaner, but terribly clunky. I wonder if the Grey Press code could be fairly easily applied to Fog of War? I've put in a query with the Mods on that.

Creative indeed Kaner, that may work.
G-Man, we need Oli to make new variants, and I have heard that he is tremendously busy. That is also the reason why the variant I was working on (World Diplomacy X) is still not published. I thus have little hope that we will get a 'Fog of War grey press' variant in time.

I’m game, but I’m not so sure how attractive this will be to others (thoughts?). I assume we’d just make the “dummy” game unrated and save it for the press afterward?

After multiple weeks, I finally have an answer as to why we don't have a Fog of War Grey Press yet. What if Grey Press could become a setting for games similar to public press or gunboat? (I am also down for the multiple game Fog of War newspaper press, if it happens)