Finished: 01 PM Mon 25 Sep 17 UTC
Abstract Cliffs of Dover
1 day /phase
Pot: 110 D - Autumn, 1918, Finished
Abstraction III, No messaging, Anon, WTA
1 excused NMR / no regaining / extend the first 2 turn(s)
Game won by JK (1523 D)

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15 Aug 17 UTC Autumn, 1902: GameMaster: Someone has taken over France replacing "neeraj0588". Reconsider your alliances.
08 Sep 17 UTC Autumn, 1912: GameMaster: Germany voted for a Draw. If everyone votes Draw the game will end and the points are split equally among all the surviving players, regardless of how many supply centers each player has.
20 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 1916: GameMaster: Italy voted for a Concede. If everyone (but one) votes Concede the game will end and the player _not_ voting Conceede will get all the points. Everybody else will get a defeat.
22 Sep 17 UTC Spring, 1917: GameMaster: Austria voted for a Concede. If everyone (but one) votes Concede the game will end and the player _not_ voting Conceede will get all the points. Everybody else will get a defeat.
25 Sep 17 UTC GG all. Italy our irreconcilable differences ultimately caused our own defeat!
25 Sep 17 UTC Turkey, I was waiting for you to vote draw and then I would instantly turn back against Britain. But you never did, unfortunately. Well done JK.
25 Sep 17 UTC Interesting game though. I was stuck in the middle of Turkey and Britain who had no other strong opposition. Austria intervened to stop any solo chance I had.
25 Sep 17 UTC Britain had a draw vote up for quite some time, so it's a pity Turkey was the only one but citing draw back then!
25 Sep 17 UTC ...only one not voting draw I meant to say.
25 Sep 17 UTC It wasn't our irreconcilable differences that caused our own defeat, it was Turkey's failure to vote draw and show his commitment towards reaching a draw. At one point, he was the lone holdout on a draw - regretting that now I'm sure. Turkey should have seen that his choices were a draw or a loss and acted accordingly. Instead he acted as if he could get a win when that was never possible.
25 Sep 17 UTC I felt since mid-game I was perpetually shifting around to push back on whoever was threatening a solo, with cooperation from England, Germany, or Italy whenever that happened, but never Turkey. I knew my only chance was trying to preserve that balance, but Turkey never seemed to pick up on that concept when it became his only chance.
25 Sep 17 UTC I agree. Britain win could be said as Turkey foolishness in not selecting Draw?
WTF.

Good play, Britain.
25 Sep 17 UTC Taking nothing away from Britain there - well done. But if Turkey didn't pressure Germany and Italy, we could have held you back, so blaming Turkey here.
25 Sep 17 UTC Should be "!" instead of "?"
25 Sep 17 UTC I don't like large draws. I had a shot at the solo when all other votes were up. Not sorry thr people had no shot at winning didnt gwt any vpoints.
25 Sep 17 UTC Turkey, I understand not liking draws if that was your reason and you would rather lose than draw. But you had zero chance at a solo and you were seriously disillusioned if you thought you could. The only reason you progressed was because England was a solo threat and you were not, so you received less attention
25 Sep 17 UTC Until 1915ish I was on par with Britain in # of SCs. Then from there Italy's destroyed unit choices allowed Britain to flourish, the he took down draw vote. I'd say I had a 25-30% shot at that point. Unlikely hope? Yes. Disillusioned? No.


Don't be so bitter. You made some late game aggro moves toward me when I had no intention of attacking you. Those units may have been better uswd to defend against Britain while I eliminated Germany. Had that happened, i would have drawn at 4 in all likliehood. Drawing at 5 in a 7 man game is borderline unacceptable by my standards
25 Sep 17 UTC No, your chances depended on us letting you have the win over Britain. My late game moves against you were made when I saw all hope of a draw going away and it was a question of you or Britain. Because you were the lone holdout on the draw vote, you lost your chance of any sympathy giving you the win. It was going to be anyone but you. And you may have wanted to draw after knocking out Germany, but England would have had none of that - he was in position to win a couple of years ago.
25 Sep 17 UTC Fair enough. I stand by my decisions and would dp the same again. I am anti-draw as I said. 5 people sharing the prize is no fun. May have been diff if this was PPSC, but draws cheapen a WTA in my opinion.
25 Sep 17 UTC And again, JK played a good game. He was on the ropes early and made a pretty good comeback.

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