The idea that you could travel from Denmark to Sweden by land is prosperous. We are talking about a 75km stretch of ocean, and the idea that you don't need a fleet to get tanks across that gap is just unrealistic and unforgivable.

Dude its a game, its a representation of North America, but its still just a game. It was probably included for balance reasons or something.

@fasces - Tru dat. I guess I'm more forgiving of taking tanks across water (ferries?) than ships across land masses. Maybe I shoudl let go of that one. But it just feels so wrong. Maybe had they included the Ohio and had it connect up - after all the distance from Pittsburgh to the Great Lakes is a lot shorter than nearly the entire length of the Indiana/Illinois border.

But, OK. So is it a decent variant? Fairly well tested and bug free with reasonable balance? Does anyone want to try it with ol' Draug... er... YCHTT?

I actually think it has more to do with you live in the area. Since you know the geography of Illinois you have more to complain about.

I actually thought the Mississipi connected the great lakes with the Gulf of Mexico until you brought up the issue.

As for whether I want to play, I think I'll pass. I hate variants which require more then 20 scs to win (with the exception to the world maps) since I hate ordering 15+ units around.

Pick a variant you think is good then. And yeah, just as the Denmark thing probably bugs the hell out of others who live in northern Europe and Scandanavia. I'd love to play with/against you, fasces.

Alcavre is pretty balanced,
Greece is well balanced in one of my favs (you pick your starting territories in Greece)
When played properly Hundred and Verdun are very balanced, but they are 3 player variants.

There are probably others. But I haven't taken a good look at most of the variants on the site.

OK, so I really like Greek Dip. The bidding for starting SCs adds an intriguing element to the game. If you are willing to play, we just need four more.

Im' in...whatever. Just post the link...or PM me or something. 1 day games, 18 hours at the shortest.

Just a fyi - due to the lock and canal system built near Chicago over the years, the great lakes DO connect to the Mississippi. Its while I they were built.

Now that said, in this time period, those didn't exist.

Yeah, I was going to mention the canals and locks near Chicago, particularly known to me because they caused some invasive species to fuck up my Great Lakes fishing.

Edit : the Illinois and Michigan Canal was.completed in 1848. That means boat transportation from Lake Michigan to the Mississippi was possible in the American Civil War.

You mean the Asian Carp Canal?

Exactly.

Krellin has an account here?
So I guess a game of Greek Diplomacy:
Fasces349
Draugnar
Krellin
lets make it a conservatives only game, but then again it might be hard to find more members, lol.

No...this is not the krellin you are looking for.

Who is this krellin anyway? Is he new here?

Who is Krellin, is he new?

lol

http://webdiplomacy.net/profile.php?userID=25361
I'm talking about a player with the same name as you on our sister site.

If your not the Krellin we all know and (sorta) love, then why are you Krellin?

Oh that guy? He's a blast. I love him. Little off the deep end sometimes...but sometimes his sarcasm and humor are just not understood. Either that or he's a raving drunk lunatic.

If you know that much about Krellin either you're him, or you have an account on webdip. Which means you're probably him. :P

This is not the krellin you are looking for. Move along...move along...

If you're still up to debate different variants, I have found that Colonial Diplomacy is pretty fairly balanced. The stats will say otherwise, but the only player with a slight advantage to begin with is Japan, imo. And that can easily be erased by an aggressive R/C alliance.

Also, I have rather taken a liking to Europe 1939, though Poland is bloody hard to play. Still, that's a fun variant. Only thing wrong with that is France is at a disadvantage imo.

@Gold: you don't like Greece? I think a battle of us conservatives would be fun on the greek map.

Colonial is to big, I wouldn't mind playing Zues 5 (although I think its inbalanced)

I've yet to try the Greek variant, actually.

How conservative we talking here? USA? Or European?

Continuing with the list of known conservatives from webdip:
Fasces
Draug
Krellin
Gold
PE?
A pm string with Canaduh suggests that he is a conservative, but he isn't a webdip conservative...

That would be the 6 we needed. If PE and Gold agree to join...
Think we could get TC over here?

But still, its finals so I can't join a game for two weeks. If you're starting one after May 8th, let me in haha.

Can someone....er....start a game...?

"How conservative we talking here? USA? Or European?"
Well from countless political debates on webdip some of us have a more conservative voice then others.

The typical voice on the internet is generally a liberal or socialist. By conservative we really just mean the right wing voices that speak out against the majority of liberals and socialists on the internet.

gameID=7739

password: conservativetroll
(no spaces no caps)

Well, I tended ti keep my political opinion to.myself mostly on webdip, bit with these characters involved, how could I resist?

And we should better define conservative, as I am a little confused. Are we talking playing style, political affiliation, music taste or sartorial elegance (to name a few)?