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butterhead (1014 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Rhaga (1000 D)
12:01 PM UTC
Question about NMR and Civil Disorder
I don't really understand how the NMR and Civil Disorder mechanics work here on vdip. We're playing a casual unrated game with a group, but one of the players wants out for personal reasons.
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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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Fake Al (1724 D)
Thu 03 Jun UTC
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Listing pronouns
One of the pitfalls of online Diplomacy I fall into is that I often don't know the genders of my fellow players and get the pronouns wrong. As far as I'm aware, the site doesn't yet have a feature for us to list the pronouns we use. Maybe we could all start listing the pronouns we use in our profile quotes to cut down on the confusion and ambiguity? I went ahead and put mine there.
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NickArrow (1000 D)
Sat 04 PM UTC
Escalation Variant
I was wondering if anybody knows if it is possible to play the escalation variant on here? Ideally, Escalation can be played with less than seven players, or possibly more than seven players. But I am not seeing any sort of option to play Escalation, does anybody know if that is possible?
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SimonPeterWatson (1059 D)
Tue 01 Jun UTC
Standardized Diplo-Language?
I was wondering if anyone has ever come up with a standard language of diplomacy commands so as to maintain anonymity while playing an anon game among friends. If you're playing with friends, you can tell who is who by how they write. Thanks for any comments or ideas.
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kaner406 (1703 D Mod (B) (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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AJManso4 (1729 D)
21 May 21 UTC
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Anyone play EU4?
Wondering if some people would like to do some multiplayer games sometime of EU4 or other paradox games in a discord server im in
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Mikey99 (2106 D)
22 May 21 UTC
Random Idea for variant
I guess this would be tricky to code, but how is this idea for vDip?

During a build phase and where a power has available build capacity, any unit sitting in a supply centre may be boosted by a power of 1, ie, doubled. This unit will require twice the normal ongoing supply maintenance.
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DaveSpermbank (1036 D)
23 May 21 UTC
Replacement player
Life has gotten busy and I do not have the time to play anymore. Can I have a country switch replacement for Tlemcen in gameID=47238?
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butterhead (1014 D)
09 Apr 21 UTC
Divided States Team Game
Hey guys! Back in the day, we used to do a lot of team games on here(chaos map, classic, etc). Im curious if people would be interested in doing a team game of the divided states map... Yes, I know, 50 people is a LOT to get for a team game. Here is how it would work.
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lfischl (767 D)
27 Apr 21 UTC
Both?
1. butterhead
2. Baron
3. Drano
4. Mouse
5. CYFI
6. Uber
7. Halt
8. Brian
9. St. John
10. Amby
11. erikip107
12. Macca573
13. ezpickins
14. kevdog8
15. Lightsong
16. Taishi Ci
17. ToxicYaken
18. lfischl
19. Victorius
20. Bsiper
21. Poolside
22. Rex
23. CBro27
24. BigOtto
25. bricknastyy
26. CommunistChicken
27. Deezee
28. ThePassiveCynic
29. CptMike?
30. christinaFeggy?
31. LexLuthor?
32. Brianthethompson?
33. Minra Von Arnim
34. JacobL582
35. Goldfinger0303
36. CCR

DS
33. Minra Von Arnim
34. JacobL582
35. Goldfinger0303
36. CCR

Only ER
37. AJManso4
AJManso4 (1729 D)
27 Apr 21 UTC
Once we have enough for an ER game, we could start it. And keep the thread up.

Then if we ever get enough for a DS game then you could use the same player list?
erikip107 (2149 D)
28 Apr 21 UTC
Yeah, total victory is not feasible, if the last game is any indication. People got bored before a single team was eliminated, and only one team still had all four members. A single player taking over the entire map is not something that people probably want to see...

If we are planning teams ahead of time, what would they be for each map?

btw I'm good with either map.
So we roughly have enough people for a game of ER, but I imagine some people on the list won't be able to join in the end. I agree with the idea of 60% as a victory condition, which on ER would still be a very large 185 SCs.

I think Butter is creating the teams
lfischl (767 D)
28 Apr 21 UTC
1. butterhead
2. Baron
3. Drano
4. Mouse
5. CYFI
6. Uber
7. Halt
8. Brian
9. St. John
10. Amby
11. erikip107
12. Macca573
13. ezpickins
14. kevdog8
15. Lightsong
16. Taishi Ci
17. ToxicYaken
18. lfischl
19. Victorius
20. Bsiper
21. Poolside
22. Rex
23. CBro27
24. BigOtto
25. bricknastyy
26. CommunistChicken
27. Deezee
28. ThePassiveCynic
29. CptMike?
30. christinaFeggy?
31. LexLuthor?
32. Brianthethompson?
33. AJManso4

So we have 33 for ER
CptMike (1678 D)
28 Apr 21 UTC
I am not in...
lfischl (767 D)
28 Apr 21 UTC
1. butterhead
2. Baron
3. Drano
4. Mouse
5. CYFI
6. Uber
7. Halt
8. Brian
9. St. John
10. Amby
11. erikip107
12. Macca573
13. ezpickins
14. kevdog8
15. Lightsong
16. Taishi Ci
17. ToxicYaken
18. lfischl
19. Victorius
20. Bsiper
21. Poolside
22. Rex
23. CBro27
24. BigOtto
25. bricknastyy
26. CommunistChicken
27. Deezee
28. ThePassiveCynic
30. christinaFeggy?
31. LexLuthor?
32. Brianthethompson?
33. AJManso4
Frozen Dog (1467 D)
28 Apr 21 UTC
1. butterhead
2. Baron
3. Drano
4. Mouse
5. CYFI
6. Uber
7. Halt
8. Brian
9. St. John
10. Amby
11. erikip107
12. Macca573
13. ezpickins
14. kevdog8
15. Lightsong
16. Taishi Ci
17. ToxicYaken
18. lfischl
19. Victorius
20. Bsiper
21. Poolside
22. Rex
23. CBro27
24. BigOtto
25. bricknastyy
26. CommunistChicken
27. Deezee
28. ThePassiveCynic
30. christinaFeggy?
31. LexLuthor?
32. Brianthethompson?
33. AJManso4
34. Frozen Dog
Frozen Dog (1467 D)
28 Apr 21 UTC
I'm up for both
Olmageddon (1373 D)
28 Apr 21 UTC
Happy to join ER or DS too -
1. butterhead
2. Baron
3. Drano
4. Mouse
5. CYFI
6. Uber
7. Halt
8. Brian
9. St. John
10. Amby
11. erikip107
12. Macca573
13. ezpickins
14. kevdog8
15. Lightsong
16. Taishi Ci
17. ToxicYaken
18. lfischl
19. Victorius
20. Bsiper
21. Poolside
22. Rex
23. CBro27
24. BigOtto
25. bricknastyy
26. CommunistChicken
27. Deezee
28. ThePassiveCynic
30. christinaFeggy?
31. LexLuthor?
32. Brianthethompson?
33. AJManso4
34. Frozen Dog
35. Olmageddon
butterhead (1014 D)
28 Apr 21 UTC
So for the DS game we can just leave signups going and see if we ever get enough people for that.

For the ER game- I have planned teams of 3 out(12 teams total) but I am also going to come up with a plan for 9 teams of 4. please give me some feedback if youd rather 3 person or 4 person teams.
erikip107 (2149 D)
29 Apr 21 UTC
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Personally I'd probably like to see the teams before deciding whether I like teams of 4 or teams of 3 better.
Yeah, what do your team plans look like?
pcrowther (1313 D)
29 Apr 21 UTC
Happy for either:

Happy to join ER or DS too -
1. butterhead
2. Baron
3. Drano
4. Mouse
5. CYFI
6. Uber
7. Halt
8. Brian
9. St. John
10. Amby
11. erikip107
12. Macca573
13. ezpickins
14. kevdog8
15. Lightsong
16. Taishi Ci
17. ToxicYaken
18. lfischl
19. Victorius
20. Bsiper
21. Poolside
22. Rex
23. CBro27
24. BigOtto
25. bricknastyy
26. CommunistChicken
27. Deezee
28. ThePassiveCynic
30. christinaFeggy?
31. LexLuthor?
32. Brianthethompson?
33. AJManso4
34. Frozen Dog
35. Olmageddon
36. pcrowther
CCR (1783 D)
29 Apr 21 UTC
Hey guys only 10 to go for a DS
BigOtto (971 D)
30 Apr 21 UTC
I'm fine with either DS or ER.
^ As am I ^
ubercacher16 (1674 D)
30 Apr 21 UTC
Divided States!
Alright. so we have roughly 35 for ER right now, since we don't currently have a 29 on the list. So just 1 or 2 more people and that can start
Can someone remind me the different proposed team scenarios for ER vs DS?
erikip107 (2149 D)
30 Apr 21 UTC
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Wouldn't necessarily be balanced, but could be fun (or serve as an interesting starting point) to do it based on colors... (maybe not for this game, but for another)

1. Castille/Scotland/Genoa/Bohemia (yellow/gold)
2. Portugal/Tunis/Ottomans/Novgorod (green)
3. Morocco/England/Demark/Poland (orange/red)
4. France/Bavaria/Sweden/Venice (blue)
5. Tlemcen/QQ/Milan/Norway (darker blue/purple)
6. Papacy/Mamluks/GH/Muscovy (tan)
7. LO/Lithuania/Naples/Burgundy (deep purple)
8. Hungary/Switzerland/Brandenburg/Aragon(Brown-ish)
9. Austria/TO/Savoy/Saxony(leftovers)

Again, not perfect even in color scheme, and there are definitely some powerhouse areas for several teams, but I don't think anyone is doomed from the start, and with known teams, a lot of power from having neighbors to begin (like england/scotland in the last game) diminishes because everybody knows it, and it could open some diplomatic complexities early on.

Dunno, could be interesting/fun.
Yeah, good idea, but I think we'd be better off with as fair teams as possible. Ultimately, we want the most pleasure for the most people. Utilitarianism.
erikip107 (2149 D)
01 May 21 UTC
Do we mean fair as in each player has equal chances? Or each team has equal chances?
I support that teams idea. I think it needs a few changes to be balanced, (ie: Muscovy and GH on the same team might screw over Lithuania) but I feel like at the very least we can use it as a starting point.

There are enough teams of each color area that we can easily mix some things up, have fair teams, and stick with the color idea. The only team that is tough to switch nations into is the green team.
Halt (2123 D)
02 May 21 UTC
I don't think we need to hew too closely to the color idea. It's a nice thematic thing, but I think making things relatively fun for the players (thus making sure they get a chance and don't just get destroyed) should be the prime directive. It still makes for a nice base format to tinker with tho
BigOtto (971 D)
03 May 21 UTC
Agreed, @Halt. Color schemes could indeed be a framework to use but prioritizing equal chance in winning should be first and foremost. So, teams crossing color boundaries when necessary would be slightly annoying but it would likely be the most optimal for preventing artificial inequality.
ezpickins (1646 D)
03 May 21 UTC
My vote is against team colors being on, in favor of more balance. I think we can memorize the colors of our teammates
butterhead (1014 D)
03 May 21 UTC
Hey guys, sorry I’ll post my team ideas for the ER game tomorrow(been a busy week)! I’m still working on the teams for a DS game because I want to make sure it’s balanced as best as possible, but those will be up asap
Frozen Dog (1467 D)
03 May 21 UTC
Agreed, balance is the most crucial.
Halt (2123 D)
04 May 21 UTC
So I've put up a list of the powers and their centers for reference:
5 CPs - Ottoman
4 CPs (condensed) - England, France, Sweden, Denmark, Mamluks, Castille, Hungary, Poland
4 CPs (spread out) - Venice, Lithuania, Genoa, Aragon, Papacy
3 CPs - Scotland, Norway, Novogord, Livonian Order, Great Horde, Muscovy, Qara-Qoyunlu, Tunis, Morocco, Tlemcen, Portugal, Burgundy, Teutonic Order, Austria, Brandenberg, Switzerland, Bavaria, Saxony, Savoy, Bohemia, Milan

4 CP condensed means their starting centers are relatively nearby. Spread out means at least 1 center is far apart. Classic example is France vs Milan. I have opted to put Lithuania as a spread out power instead of a condensed power as there were already 9 in the 5CP + 4CP (condensed) tier, and it strikes me as the weakest of those powers (based on centricity, ease of centralization, number of neighbors)

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Mikey99 (2106 D)
13 May 21 UTC
VP
Kinda curious on VP... I understand that the gains are lesser as one gets higher, but how does one player (for example) get to over 2000 with under 12 total games and only 1 win? I know its not that consequential in the grand scheme of things. but as I get to a moderately respectable total, the vp gains from a win or draw seem trivial and disproportionate to lost vp when losing. How does VP calculations actually work?
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Anon (?? D)
18 May 21 UTC
A Modern Europe Game --> Need players! :D
The massive map of europe with 20 countries. only 7/20 filled up

https://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=48301
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umbletheheep (1023 D)
18 May 21 UTC
Diplomacy Board Game Giveaway
The Briefing is giving away a free Diplomacy board game. Here's how to win it: https://www.diplomacybriefing.com/giveaway
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pcrowther (1313 D)
15 May 21 UTC
Trying to post in mod forum
I’m trying to post in the mod forum but it doesn’t look like it’s saving/posting the thread. Am I doing something wrong?
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David Hood (976 D)
14 May 21 UTC
May 2021 Deadline News is Out!
Enjoy the Dixiecon news, the panel discussion with Jordan Connors (Conq), Katie Gray and Jason Mastbaum, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZUQ19Shp0I

David Hood
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Giving SCs up in order to prevent a solo win.
What’s the opinion of everyone when it comes to giving up ones SCs to a non-leader in order to help prevent a solo win? Good strategy or cheating?
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BigOtto (971 D)
06 May 21 UTC
Sitter Needed
Unexpected stuff happened IRL. Can anyone please sit for me in two of my games?
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leelee.lewie (1073 D)
02 May 21 UTC
Dropping out due to life getting too busy/complicated
Hi all, I am not sure how but I have seen it before. How do I drop out of all my games if I just do not have the time for it anymore? I would hate to ruin the ongoing games my fellow players are in and would like to have a way to drop out without a penalty. Would be greatly appreciated!! :)
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Caustic (1114 D)
27 Apr 21 UTC
Cant find a forum post
I can't find the variant development post in forum. Iv looked at every page twice. Idk what my deal is. Can someone past the URL to it or tell me what page its on? Please and thank you
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butterhead (1014 D)
27 Apr 21 UTC
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Appreciation
Thank you mods for just being super awesome and taking great care of this site. We appreciate everything you do, and think you guys are all around awesome.

Thank you, that is all
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Caustic (1114 D)
27 Apr 21 UTC
Cant find a forum post
I can't find the variant development post in forum. Iv looked at every page twice. Idk what my deal is. Can someone past the URL to it or tell me what page its on? Please and thank you

On a side note. A search bar to search threw forum would be nice to have
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Tabrith (948 D X)
27 Apr 21 UTC
Suppressive Mods
Cant even air grievances without getting shut down. These mods are unbelievable snow flakes unable to handle even the smallest issue. Pathetic.
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Tabrith (948 D X)
27 Apr 21 UTC
Worthless Mods
Mod Team are a bunch of useless, lying, sub-humans, if you have an issue then just give up and forget about having it be dealt with properly.
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Chaqa (1586 D)
23 Apr 21 UTC
Dark Mode???
y no dark mode
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Question on retreats
Hello all, I haven't found a satisfying answer on it on this page. So to clarify it ones and for all: If two units bounce into one territory, does this prevent a third unit to retreat into it in the upcoming retreat phase?

Thanks for the answer! I hope this thread helps others too.
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Interactive map bug
is it just me or does t.he interactive map only work on mobile devices now? I've tried to on my desktop, laptop and phone and it only seems to work on the phone.
Thanks
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David Hood (976 D)
23 Apr 21 UTC
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April 2021 Deadline News is out, from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network
This month's edition includes interviews, a panel discussion on ethics in Diplomacy, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yv6eYt-bMhI
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ubercacher16 (1674 D)
21 Apr 21 UTC
New Tournament?
Message below:
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JECE (1472 D)
15 Apr 21 UTC
Is the ModForum still being used? I'm in no hurry, but I posted this over two weeks ago:
Subject: Can't create new game with custom phase length

I'm trying to create a game with 42-hour phases, but keep getting this error: "The phase value is too large or small; it must be between 5 minutes and 10 days."
I was able to do this a few years ago without any problem: gameID=32997
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