Allright, 2 things here:

First - I can see Ottos point. Poor grammar CAN make one appear to be more shallow in thought than they really are. Unfortunately, that can cause people to make decisions to either attack, or not attack then based solely on grammar. I know that I've attacked players with poor grammar more than once simply because I felt like we weren't communicating well.

On the other hand, English is a tricky language, and expecting people to be perfect in it is silly. Hell, I'm a native speaker and my grammar isn't perfect. Perhaps we should encourage non-native speakers to 1: let everyone know you're not a native speaker, and 2: if necessary, post in your native tongue and let the other person put it in a translator. It might not be perfect, but it might help get the point across better that you're quite an indepth thinker.

Just my $.02

"Your an idiot as well. And no, a verb isn't missing. your is you're."
Ahhh: your=you're !! Now I got it. Thanks Bismark.

I think that if English speakers would type correctly, I'd learn English so much faster because in my language to each letter corresponds one sound and only one and vice-versa. So if you add or take out a letter then the sound (and the meaning) changes. It's hard for me to get that "nite", that is not in my vocabulary, goes for "night". And why not for "knight"?.
So if someone types words uncorrectly then HE is to blame, NOT ME that I'm doing the best that I can, typing carefully and slowly in a foreign language.

When I'm not sure I always ask explanations. And if somebody is willing to understand me, I'm always avaliable for explanations.

Laziness in typing very often reflects laziness of thinking.
This would explain why so many of those lazy typers usually don't make many efforts to understand what I am saying. They don't do the best that they can.

This is a pity, because sometime I translate into English some nice idiomatic phrases of my country. The first that comes to my mind now, in English would sound like:
"Only a real idiot is idiot enough to call someone else an idiot."
Explanations needed, anyone?

@Daiichi Not out of self-interest my friend, but for better gaming.
I'm constantly keeping myself aware of grammar. Ever since I started SAT in particular.. often i google up things. everything is on the internet.
poor grammar can determine how one reads certain things.
and Daiichi, did you even read butterhead's first comment? it doesn't make any sense at all. btw, the content, not grammar.

Guaroz - out of curiosity, what's your native tongue? Also, that quote is awesome :)

@Guaroz
lol nice
point taken. my apologies

@ Drano, I'm Italian. You?
@ Otto, apologies accepted. :)

Schools of Education decided in the 1980s that teaching grammar was ineffective or culturally oppressive or ideologically impure (or more probably hard and not fun for teachers); therefore, for people my age, the public schools were convinced to not teach us grammar at all. We were somehow supposed to learn it on our own through writing and reading without any formal instruction. I hope this was simply one of the numerous insane fads that Schools of Education embraces in their ongoing efforts to experiment on kids in every manner other than tying teacher compensation to performance or subject specific knowledge.

One of my favorite stories is in David Rockefeller's memoirs. The five sons of John D. Rockefeller Jr were turned over to a private school affiliated with Columbia University's Teachers College. They are also famous examples of people with dyslexia. My being dyslexic caused me to learn about a fair number of famous people with dyslexia. Dyslexia is to a degree genetic, and Nelson Rockefeller's being severely dyslexic and his four brothers somewhat so is a famous example of gene linked clustering. The interesting part is that these five men had many children, everyone of them. These many children then in turn produced many grandchildren. And as David pointed out not one has ever shown any sign of dyslexia. So the more probable explanation is that the Columbia Teachers College experimented on the children of the richest man in the world and somehow failed to teach any of them to read properly. Then when their failure became undeniable, the children were diagnosed by Columbia as having learning disabilities. They all grew up believing that something was wrong with them. Three became governors of states where, guess what, they agitated for policies to help identify children with learning disabilities and showered money on the parts of the system that serviced such kids.

@Butterhead----English is the language of the greatest number of people on here, even though the site is German. Fairness has very little to do with it. Lingua Franca means literally French Tongue precisely because it was the language most spoken by educated people during the 17th Century and so was the universal language of Science and Intellectual Discourse. Such is English today. Perhaps it is working with so many non-natives but I have not had too much trouble understanding people. But I have a high tolerance for things other than lying and laziness and massive Mythos level douchiness.

My freshman year of HS was when they removed the TSWE from the SAT. Then most good colleges started making people take an SAT II Writing for an additional fee to ETS. I understand that they have now added something similar back in now. Somehow we used to take a full SAT and the TSWE in a good measure under 3 hours.....a far more reasonable amount of time to ask a teenage boy to sit still.

@Bismarck: okay, maybe I schould learn english, but it would be also kind of you to name yourstels "Otto VON Bismarck and not "VAN".
This is importtant because VON is german and VAN belgic or something like that I think.
Also I`M quite shure that I speak english good enough that my chatpartners understand me; till now I never had problems.

*very kind

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=3611

I thought the "van" was the point of the name.

You won't think it's funny when you're living in a VAN down by the RIVER!

Moment of silence for Chris Farley.

Who`s that ?

http://vdiplomacy.com/profile.php?userID=1276
Otto, why are you so angry about people might can`t speak english as well as you do, when, you havn`t played ONE game here yet o.O ?

He is clearly in an anon game, GOD.

@GOD
read my profile. i know its otto von bismarck. i screwed up yea.
i'm not angry, i'm just promoting players to improve for a better game experience.

Aha.
OK

But still...you can be only in two-three games.
You wouldn`t get much info about the players here from this.

dammit, we always end up with pedants.

MUHAHA

i read the first page and The Bismarck Character appears so funny in how ignorant he truly is.

@ezpickins
thank you for your idiotic comment

heyhey
stay polite