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headward7 (981 D)
30 May 12 UTC
Another teams game (for friends)
Pre-arranged teams so you get to actually ally with your friends without worrying if you're breaking the impartiality code! Great way to invite new friends to come try out the site. We have a team of 3 already, looking for 4 or 7 more players.

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Lukas Podolski (1234 D)
31 May 12 UTC
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WW2 Team Game ... 2 more needed!!
gameID=8304

We need two more players for the game to start ~
Password is conquer
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Anyone else not going to join any games that say no friends?
I understand the fear of meta-gaming, however, if a person is meta-gaming I doubt they are going to register their friends. Also, this doesn't include site friends which I have seen to be just as close as real life friends.
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Oli (977 D Mod (P))
29 May 12 UTC
Small addition.
As I don't want to limit friends that had never ever a meta/multigaming issue here (and I respect most of them esp. in your group) The system might need some more tweaks.

For now we'll just group users together that have shown some meta/multigaming issues and remove the tag for all others (you might need to send us a small follow up in the modforum). I'll add some code so we can mark the groups as hidden (so only we mods know, because there was never a problem in this group).
Oli (977 D Mod (P))
29 May 12 UTC
PS: And I need another Name for this options. NoFriends sounds a bit harsh (and it's more the lack of my English knowledge that I didn't find a better description)
Guaroz (2030 D (B))
29 May 12 UTC
@butter: yes, you took it wrong. Please be more careful.
G-Man (2466 D)
29 May 12 UTC
@ Oli: How about "No Invites"
butterhead (1272 D)
29 May 12 UTC
@Guaroz- or maybe you should explain more clearly next time so there is no room for misinterpretation. because I'm sure I'm not the only one who read it that way.
gman314 (1016 D)
29 May 12 UTC
@butter: I read it exactly the same way you did.
@butter: I read it same as you.
SacredDigits (978 D)
29 May 12 UTC
Sorry, Guaroz, I also read it the way butterhead did.
I read it that way too. It clearly implied that he needed to play fewer games with his friends.
Guaroz (2030 D (B))
29 May 12 UTC
@ YCHTT yes, but it was just a suggestion: Diplomacy is funny as well without RL friends ("I believe").
It doesn't imply I think that playing with them it's wrong as butter says. To be sure to be not misinterpreted, I added "This doesn't mean you must not."
C'mon guys.... are you kidding me?
butterhead (1272 D)
29 May 12 UTC
@Guaroz- it was simply a miscommunication due to a confusing way you said it... It isn't a big deal, but next time make sure you clarify exactly what you mean before you go telling me or someone else to read more carefully please?
fasces349 (1007 D)
30 May 12 UTC
"Yep, so was Imp C I believe, or was it Ancient Memories? I can't remember now which one it was. "
It was imp c, but he is no longer on this site :(
@Guaroz - It's probbaly a language thing because "you should play without friends more often than you do now, I believe" is passing judgment and telling him what to do to a native English speaker.
Guaroz (2030 D (B))
30 May 12 UTC
@YCHTT. Uh, ok. Sorry then. I thought there was more difference between "You must" and "(I believe) you should". The latter sounds like a suggestion/advice, in my language, that you might follow or not.
However, if "you should" is such an imperative form that tells you what to do, I wonder why nobody asked for clarifications about the contradiction it makes with "This doesn't mean you must not (play with your friends)" and instead they've found easier take for granted that I upheld that it's wrong playing with your friends (or this is how I read things like "@Guaroz- there is nothing wrong with him playing with Nemesis"). In my language, we'd say :"You are putting in my mouth words I didn't say".
Anyway, thanks for your explanation. I'll be more careful from now on using "should", since it basically means "must".

Wolfman (1230 D)
30 May 12 UTC
Actually, I would describe the word "Should" as "a strong recommendation" or "this would be best" more then a "must" type command. However, it is a telling word in English. Most times when "should" is a suggestion and not a "recommendation" the words "might" or "maybe" are usually attached.
sqrg (1186 D)
30 May 12 UTC
Before I start my rant I need to say that there are some RL persons that I play with. We usually play "only RL friends" games as they are really enjoyable. I really don't see the fun in playing 5 friends and 2 random persons, that game would be so weird.
One of the friends is my roommate too, so we play from the same ip. We used to be very active and it has happened that we have joined the same game, especially with variants like world diplomacy etc.

And here comes my point: I really don't think I let myself be influenced by it. Realizing at the same time of course that that's bullshit: playing a non-anonymous game and recognizing any name will ALWAYS influence you, but online friends/enemies and real life acquaintances all the same...

I would like to argue that this no-friends option will just not accomplish anything.
1) if you're trying to catch multi's they won't register as friends...
2) if you're trying to stop people from beeing influenced by the people they play with, then all games will have to be anynymous and completely randomized. Don't think anyone would like that.
3) My personal sense of what's fair compels me to register my real life friends when the site asks me too. It's also that sense that makes me not cheat and try my best not to let anything outside a game influence my decisions in the game. I've had situations were people muted me after a stab so they would not have to play with me again. I've had people say "looking at your other games it shows you you never honor a austrian-italian alliance so I wont accept your offer". That is more unfair than me playing with a rl friend, but trying NOT to be influenced by it.
My real trouble with the no friends thing is this: It will just "punish" the honest players, because they might not be able to join as many games. While at the same time we don't need to worry about honest players, they are not the problem with this site, they are what makes this site worthwhile.

Strider (1604 D)
30 May 12 UTC
Hey i found this site cause people i played with moved grew up or stoped playing.
Only been 6 months and found heaps of great people to stab... sorry play with.
Had several games destroyed by multi player think nofriends only as good as registration and sign up allows.

People will always try work the system, abuse or other wise screw things up. thats life.

Worse thing i find is cd's and nmr's can't be avoided.. shit happens.
@Guaroz - "Should" doesn't mean "must" ("shall" is the form that means "must") but it carries with it a weight that means the recommendation is important. "May" was probably the word you were looking for. For instance, you should change your oil every at least twice a year but you may want to change it every 3 months.
butterhead (1272 D)
30 May 12 UTC
Agreed with YCHTT on that last point:
@Guaroz- lets use it on your sentence, "Only, you should play without friends more often than you do now, I believe". now replace "should" with "may want to" or "you may find it fun to" and you get "Only, you may want to/you may find it fun to play without friends more often than you do now, I believe" and you get a much less demanding sounding, less likely to be misinterpreted sentence :D totally understand why there is the confusion since English isn't your primary(I had forgotten that because you speak it pretty well).
Guaroz (2030 D (B))
30 May 12 UTC
Thanks everybody for your english lessons. I appreciate them :)
"you may want" sounds damned strange in Italian! :))
"you may find it fun" sounds quite better, but it doesn't look like a suggestion...it sounds more like a statement of what could happen or not, whithout implying I'm giving an advice or implying that who's listening could get a benefit from my words...
However, ok. Thanks. I'll try to train my ears to these strange sounds! :)
btw, nobody still told me how did it sound: "This doesn't mean you must not (play with your friends)" Which part was not clear?
butterhead (1272 D)
30 May 12 UTC
@Guaroz- that part was perfectly clear, it was the rest of it that made it seem like a negative statement towards playing with friends, which we have cleared up with you now :D
Yeah - It was clear you weren't stating he couldn't, but the rest gave it an intonation like you thought he shouldn't in general. Should not and, conversely, should are very strong words often used by the courts here to encourage someone to "doth right thing" even when they can't enforce it. Should is a demanding word and may is an encouraging word.


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adalephat (733 D)
30 May 12 UTC
Join WW2 Team Game!
There's less than 2 days left, and we still need 3 players, so join!
gameID=8304
pass: conquer
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outofbounds (1049 D)
30 May 12 UTC
New to site - How the hell do I join a game?
I am trying to figure out how to join a game. The site is apparently looking for a password, but not recognizing my LogOn password that I registered with, and I have no clue of any other that I should be offering. Am I missing something very simple here?
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Rancher (1207 D)
30 May 12 UTC
Connection Problems
with this site
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mongoose998 (1344 D)
29 May 12 UTC
LoL
I have recently become very addicted to League of Legends. So much that I only have one vDip game going at this time. And it takes A LOT to take my attention from diplomacy. Does anyone else here play this game?
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Shep315 (1435 D)
29 May 12 UTC
Live American Conflict
Anyone up for a live American Conflict game this fine evening? it would be nice to get a slightly larger live game going and we have all these variants might as well use them! Plus I've been meaning to test out this map
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RoxArt (1732 D)
29 May 12 UTC
try new map - pls join!! :)
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8438
hi pals, lets try.. join fast :)
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feels weird posting this here...
We used to ask on WebDip if anyone had talked to Oli cause VDip had crashed. Now I ask the reverse. Has anyone talked to Kestas? Cause WebDip has crashed. :-)
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eskel96 (1165 D)
28 May 12 UTC
pirates diplomacy game
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8424
hello all, ive been dying to try the pirates variant on the game. i couldnt get enough people last time who wanted to play to get it going so now im posting a game to the public. please join, anonymous players, 20 hour phases
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Ninjanrd (1248 D)
29 May 12 UTC
I need a sitter!
I have lost almost all access to the internet and need someone to put in tournament and other moves for me. I am currently playing six games and would not like to CD in them.
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fuzzyhartle1 (856 D)
28 May 12 UTC
Tribal Trouble2
So i am aware that a few people on this site likes RTS. I also know a few people who have played or is a current player of this game. I just want to know what people think about it.
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The Czech (1977 D)
28 May 12 UTC
Any one up for a live game?
It's 12:39 EDT
gunboat?
Anon classic?
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GOD (1791 D Mod (B))
27 May 12 UTC
rl setting
How does the server know who is a rl friend of me?
O.o
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Oli (977 D Mod (P))
28 May 12 UTC
NMR/extend game setting- names...
After some weeks of testing I'll change this to a single dropdown.
Help me find good names for the different options...
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Sengoku5 game!
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=7698
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javidtl (976 D)
27 May 12 UTC
Someone who wabts to join in?
This is the ID: gameID=8413 The password is: viejo.

We need more players, it's a Fall of the American Empire IV, for me the most interesting map of the game.
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adalephat (733 D)
27 May 12 UTC
WW2 Team Game
5 places are empty, join!
http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8304
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Neil (957 D)
26 May 12 UTC
Can anyone take over my games for me?
I've been trying to finish off my last games for the summer because I'm finding myself increasingly busy with my night class and jobs but I've been struggling to keep up with orders... is there anyone who can play out my last few games?
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javidtl (976 D)
26 May 12 UTC
Join this game
It's a Fall of the American Empire lV. We need 6 more players to start. It's going to be fun, I hope you join it.

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8360
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King Atom (1186 D)
26 May 12 UTC
North Sea Wars
Woo!
Game Time, who's in?
gameID=8375
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The Czech (1977 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your DEAD Games Here!
This is like the live games and non-live games except it is for games where someone CDs and you need a replacement player.
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GOD (1791 D Mod (B))
25 May 12 UTC
BETA?! O.o
What is this BETA you can make in settings?
O.o
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~ Diplomat ~ (1036 D X)
23 May 12 UTC
Sitter needed.
I need a sitter for a period of two weeks as I will be going to my ancestral village which has no internet connection..So please help? Someone?
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gjdip (1503 D)
24 May 12 UTC
Winner algorithm
Why did the Arabs win this game and not Norge (or a shared win)?

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=7800
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orathaic (952 D)
25 May 12 UTC
mid/late game variants
I have a rather simple idea for a new kind of variant.

It would be based on another game (where we know what happened) and the victory conditions would be changed so survival would be the best one country might hope for, while anything less than a solo would be a loss for the leader.... does this make sense?
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Shep315 (1435 D)
25 May 12 UTC
Democracy in Action!!!
Since my first attempt to create a Mate Against Mate game failed, I will be taking the decision on the settings to you, yes you the good people of the vdip community!
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airborne (970 D)
22 May 12 UTC
Enlightenment & Successions Test Game?
Once Oli vertifies a couple files I will host a test game of a variant based in 1700 Europe. (http://lab.vdiplomacy.com/index.php)
Will post the link once I'm ready
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gman314 (1016 D)
19 May 12 UTC
Meme Game
I came up with an idea for a Meme Game. Two, actually. In one, all press would be conducted by posting links to Memes. The one I'd rather play would be a variant of Extreme Personalities. Each player would act like a meme character. Anyone interested?
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