Finished: 03 PM Wed 13 Jan 21 UTC
Stop islamization of Europe (GEFT)
1 day /phase
Pot: 40 D - Autumn, 1910, Finished
1 excused NMR / regain after 5 turn(s) / extend never
Game won by Pu (1485 D)

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13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Whoever gets Turkey will be very lucky
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Interesting dynamics. I am very excited
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Indeed!
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: That's the whole idea of the map – Turkey gets a huge advantage at the start and western countries need to work together to prevent its easy victory. Though, western countries still have their contradictions and reasons for conflicts a good Turkish diplomat could play on.
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Well, just don't be too harsh on me.
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: My fellow Europeans, England stands for eternal peace between all of us, that's why here are some common sense proposals:

1) English Channel, Irish Sea and North Atlantic Ocean should be demilitarized, meaning neither our nor French fleets should go there so we could trust one another and be sure peace between our nations is maintained;

2) Germany shouldn't build any additional fleets, nor move into North Sea, or Skagerrak, or Baltic Sea, since those builds and moves can in no way affect our supposed common enemy but only peace-loving English people; England, in our turn, shall not move into Heligoland Bight, and Baltic Sea as well;

3) we also would like France not to build fleets in Brest, so that England would be set free from worrying about possibility of French attack on our Motherland and could concentrate on stuff going on in Northern and Eastern Europe.
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Our SC proposals are:

1) Denmark and Holland go to Germany, while Sweden and Norway go to England; in the future, our plan is to expand by taking St. Petersburg and then some SCs in Eastern Europe;

2) Belgium status is debatable; England does consider a possibility of taking over Belgium (that would be fair, since we don't have an access to numerous easily-taken SCs in Central and Southern Europe), but we'd like to hear what our friends from Germany and France say about it.
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Speaking of a bigger picture. What we have in mind about this game is a 3-way draw. England will never initiate any military actions against our fellow Europeans. But, although I'm not happy about it, I must warn you that in case of French and German aggression we'll defend the best we can, cause the most trouble we can and do our best to make sure Turkey wins this game. I think both France and Germany should have the same attitude, so let's not waste our time and power fighting each other, let's not hand an easy victory to Turkey, let's maintain peace in Western Europe.

Waiting for your replies.

Peace.
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: @England, I am happy to agree with your proposals. I think a French fleet in Brest may be necessary to move on Turkey in the Early game.

I think Belgium ought to go to France, and Helgoland bight goes to Me.

Here is my proposal of Expansion:
France-Italy
Germany-Austria+ Warsaw
England-Russia
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Wait, I am france? I though I was Germany??
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Why is my Text black, and the button to get to this game has black text?
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: I Propose I get Trieste
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Excuse me, France, I seem to fail to understand you. Why would you need to go to Heligoland Bight? And also, why do you need Belgium? You already have Spain, Portugal, Italy and Tunis – six sure SCs, more than me or even Germany. According to your scheme, I will have only three SCs – Norway, Sweden and St. Petersburg, since Turkey will surely reach Moscow sooner than me. I don't see this situation as fair.
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: > Wait, I am france? I though I was Germany??

This happens.
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: Now that you know you're France I'd be happy to hear your actual proposals :)
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: I get Belgium and Trieste
Fleets in Brest with English Permission
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: I still would like to hear why you need Belgium. You already have guaranteed +6 SCs in south.
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: We all need our maximum builds. I think England should get Denmark (with a fleet and Norway with an army) that is England's 2 builds
I should get Belgium Venice, and Spain sc, my 3
Germany should get Vienna and Warsaw and Holland, his 3
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: A fleet in Portugal would be a bad move, especially when I need to break Ionian before he has it stalemated
13 Dec 20 UTC Spring, 1901: I doubt breaking Ionian is possible even if you move Brest-MAO-WestMed this year instead of taking Spain. And the fact remains, you surely take Portugal (if not this year, then next year), as well as other 5 SCs in the south.

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