Well, I am signing off for the night. But I would hope to play with you again soon.

I played poorly for the second half of that last game, and got to cocky. Oh well.

I'm looking forward to another round. And yeah, I felt like you had control of that one since the moment you got MAO. I just was fortunate enough to be in position to blitzkrieg (hehe) all those centers and hold out to win.

If anyone's around, I'm doing 1v1 matches today. If someone's game at about 1:30 PM CST that's wonderful (it's just past 10 AM CST now), otherwise it'll probably be after 3 PM.

http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=856

Step up for the slaughter.

I'd play but for some reason cant join.

I think the issue with 1v1 games is that the creator can still set a bet amount. So even if you only need to put $1 into the pot, it requires you have the points required to meet the bet to be able to join.

well i dont know why you would bother setting the limit more than 5 when 1on1s automatically revert to 1

http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=857

I figured Eden probably just left the default was the problem.

Eden, i don't have enough points available, but i want to try playing you. can we do a lower stakes game?

Ah, that was the problem. I didn't realize it defaulted to one. That's lame! :/

I'll take all challengers when I get back home and get my laptop charged. In the meantime... raapers is pretty legit if you want an opponent. He kicked my ass straight up.

Alright, see y'all later!

Anyone up for one?

you have a map in mind?

http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=863

Honest question: how has anyone won as...

Austria in AvF
Germany in GvI
Juggernaut in FvJ

?

The ones I listed have such shitty seapower. I don't get how one can win without a slip-up from the other player.

Germany isn't too bad in GvI, because he has 2 coastal territories, and can reach open seas in 1 too 1.5 years, and has a MASSIVE land power advantage over Italy if Italy does primarily sea power.

It takes two years to get to the MAO. Italy takes 1.5. Italy should win every single time.

And FvA/FGvRT is just ridiculous.

I think a good, reflexive player can win as Germany or Austria, but I've found that its exceedingly difficult to win as Juggernaut

play style mostly, one player usually ends up being more conservative, In my experiences, that player ends up losing.

by the way how many are up for a game tonight?

I'm done after this round. I'm not thinking straight at all, misordering, and I've screwed up multiple games now that I should have just simply done better in.

Ive won as austria in FvA, the best bet is to rush into germany and achieve a defensive line that allows you to take russia, turkey and the balkans at your leisure

I know, and I saw your game. France played that extremely poorly in the early going; there's no excuse for Austria owning all of Germany or the Ionian Sea by 1903. If Austria gets that kind of head start, sure it can win; France gave you that one by not putting any pressure on you in the Mediterranean or Germany until it was far too late. And how does he not get a fleet into the North Sea until the final turn?

That game actually serves to prove my point, I think -- it takes a bad game from France for Austria to have a good shot at winning.

he did in essence off himself in the first few turns, the stats page actually shows that austria has a few more wins than france, but i imagine a lot of people doing badly as france early on

yeah i just looked through a lot of the old games where austria won real quick and france always made some monumental mistake near the beginning

That's what I figured. Once people start figuring out how to play France (use your naval superiority to grab Tunisia and some Italian centers, use that to get one of Munich or Berlin early and hold it, don't let Austria get into Scandinavia), Austria's stats should plummet.

Same with Germany vs Italy, but I think Germany can usually pile enough pressure on the Austrian sector to keep things close.

the only balanced 1 v 1 is lepanto and that map is just a real pain to navigate, personally i like the civil war map, but i admit that it could use some improvements too

I think Germ vs Italy could be the most balanced if it starts with a build phase. The army in Rome almost guarantees that Italy will only get 2 builds the first year while Germany can nearly always grab 3. The option of a fleet in Rome would also allow Italy to push into Iberia and MAO much faster and actually put Germany on the defensive.

Actually Italy is just as strong as Germany in the 1 v 1 (winning 45% of the time and not by luck), The fleet in Rome would give Italy a strong advantage.

So raapers, are you interested in one?