i gave turkey the win? not by much, he had the win even if he didn't take Liverpool. so that's not my fault,
and as to the reason he won instead of you is that you constantly criticized me for making the game "last longer" even though it was shorter than the full number of phases would suggest if played out to the full phase length. i had to choose between you and him, and i chose him because it was more fun reading his comments and he was less directly confrontational and critical of my policies

@ezpickins: well, I hadn't won yet. There was still a pretty good chance that RoxArt could have grabbed some of my centers before I could take his.

@RoxArt: I think we play Diplomacy differently. You appreciate teamwork over success, and I'm the other way around. I'm not disrespecting your viewpoint, but I think that it goes against the objective of Diplomacy.

Well you could not lose a center from anything i could see, if you point one of these out i would appreciate it

I could have lost Warsaw quite easily. Germany would have been a lost cause if Austria moved NTH-Den or HEL.

@ez: he would have had 17 and I would have been in better position, further I made you a big text with a proposal to get you back to 2 or 3 center and you did not even answer....
so blablabla

@Tbroadley: you're wrong... did you look at my stats? ;) I guess 55% WINS say it all. But in certain games a good draw means more... Like in this game where we were allies from start I would rather draw with a good ally to keep him in good memory than stab and have a bad sign in his mind as you have in mine now....
Now you will say each game should be independent but you know it's allways there in the back of your mind ;)

and to ez: first I ment 11 not 17... and second answer to your ingame msg if you again do not read there:
wales could have support holded! I wrote you I would not attack!
did you even read my messages :/

That game was miserable... and I got played from the beginning... Damn you Rox...

wowowowow?
me?
what did I do to you...
you made the misstakes in the south.. and I could not help there.... ;)

Tbroadley: you would not have lost a center in the fall.
Rox: i read it, there was only little i could do to prevent the win, so i felt that support holding would be superfluous

I offered you to help you survive and had a good plan... you could have sup holded and then I would have supported you to wales...

he would have lost warsaw + kiel next year....

hey I was there! I was the nomadic peoples settling down in Scandanavia. member???

and butterhead if anyone was screwed it was me by you

just realized I did not take one Center that entire game