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AJManso4 (1698 D)
Mon 15 Nov UTC
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Error message when trying to open my games
Error triggered: assert(): Calling assert() with a string argument is deprecated.


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A Sad Anniversary Today.
One full year.

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A Sad Anniversary Today.
One full year.

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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
Sun 14 Nov UTC
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Question for Alternative History nerds
In January of 1920, when Kolchak resigned in favor of Semyonov, a Japanese puppet, what would have happened if the Japanese had gotten Semyonov's Buryat puppet state to roll up the Trans-Siberian Railroad as they withdrew from Omsk?
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
Sun 14 Nov UTC
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I presume that pulling up the rails and ties on say 100 kilometers of the railroad would have trapped the Bolsheviks in Europe for a decade. I do not see Soviet Russia being able to manufacture, transport and assemble a 100 kilometers of new railroad infrastructure in the middle of the Russian Civil War. This would have theoretically allowed the Japanese to flood Eastern Siberia with colonial and military infrastructure on par with what they later did in Manchuria. With a decade to prepare and railroad infrastructure on their end, I suspect that they could have held on to at least everything East of Baikal. The JIA's northern strategy would have been a fact on the ground. They would have likely still seized Manchuria, but might not have ever felt pressed to invade China or look covetously towards Southeast Asia.

Any thoughts?
The Ambassador (1840 D (B))
Wed 17 Nov UTC
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Plausible. But pretty niche alt history.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
Wed 17 Nov UTC
It would likely mean no US entry into World War II, no Communist takeover of China and no effective insurgency movements in European colonies in Southeast Asia. Japan may well have never left the League of Nation, broken with the British or formed an alliance with Germany. That means that there would not have been a Soviet spy master in Tokyo getting information about German plans and activities from Nazi briefings of the Japanese.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
Wed 17 Nov UTC
Plus, the entire economic development of Australia in the second half of the 20th Century would be massively changed.
Frozen Dog (1440 D)
Thu 18 Nov UTC
I think what you're suggesting would have made a land confrontation between the (still likely victorious) Soviet Union and Japan happen earlier and result in Soviet victory eventually. A bloody land war in Siberia doesn't sound like a particularly amazing prospect for the Empire of Japan.
Frozen Dog (1440 D)
Thu 18 Nov UTC
Totally agree that it would entirely change the potential shape of the second world war.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
Thu 18 Nov UTC
The Japanese Empire defeated a much stronger Russian Empire. I am not at all certain that the Red Army could have easily defeated the Japanese Imperial Army in Siberia if the Soviet Union had to build the transportation infrastructure to supply a transcontinental campaign after the Japanese had a decade or more to prepare. The Green Uprisings would have likely pushed Siberian peasants into a Japanese puppet Buryat kingdom under Semyonov. Not to mention that stealing peasant grain and livestock in southern Siberia was relatively important in avoid mass starvation in the cities of European Russia during the early 1920s. With fewer productive agrarians to steal from the urban Bolshevik regime would have had to squeeze even harder west of the Urals, which presumably would have made the Green Uprisings even worse.
I think we can observe that:
i) the fact that something is militarily possible does not make it politically possible.

For example, the US had the strength and resources to overthrow the Soviet regime in the Russian Civil War. I mean. A landing in St. Petersburg was not so infeasible. Clearly American politics was not ready to make such a commitment even if it'd pay off in the long run.

In Japan there was a close competition between Navalists and the Army fundamentally similar to that in Great Britain since 700 with the difference that the British parliament owned a military while it was the Japanese military to own the parliament, to paraphrase Mirabeau.

I don't see how the UK or the US could have recognized the Japanese annexation of parts of Siberia. On the other hand, it doesn't seem that Japan could withstand international pressure to do so.

ii) It's true that an important element of Japanese expansionism was a self-perception of weakness and lack of some fundamental resources. But oil was discovered just in Western Siberia in the sixties.

On the other hand, the ambiguous question: the lack of resources was an incentive for a risky and aggressive foreign policy, but are we sure that Japan would have ceased to be a revisionist power had it felt less economically insecure?
I sincerely doubt. Look at a juicy target like Dutch Indonesia. It was the Western power that held Japan back, not some special internal constraint.
A war in the Pacific has probably been inevitable.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
Fri 19 Nov UTC
The Americans were in Siberia with the Japanese at the time. The root issue with my alternative proposal is that Semyonov had spent the Russian Civil War extracting rents on railroad traffic and so would not have ever thought to rip up the railroad on the retreat from Omsk. He was just a too much of a scoundrel to do strategically wise things.

Keeping the Bolsheviks out of Siberia would have been enough to get the Brits and Americans to close their eyes to a a Buryat puppet state under the Japanese thumb. Much as Manchuria ultimately did keep the Japanese busy, my proposition is that Siberia would have absorbed much of Japan's expansionist energy.
The Ambassador (1840 D (B))
Tue 23 Nov UTC
Like to suggest something for this thread. Gopher's alt history scenario has been running for about a week. How about we get some more alt history suggestions, +1 what you think we should explore and then we spend a week roughly. Might fill in the time while the server gets fixed. Or maybe its just another pointless idea.
gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
Tue 23 Nov UTC
What if...

The US responds to the rise of Totalitarianism in the early 1920s by drafting, passing and ratifying the 22nd Amendment to the US Constitution 25 years early after having just ratified the 17th and 18th Amendments. Thus FDR cannot seek a third term as President. I would presume that "Cactus Jack" Gardner would then become President and be the man who won World War II and confronted Hitler and Tojo. Gardner, who was willing to try the improvisation of the First New Deal in desperation at the crises of the Great Depression, was an unequivocal opponent of the Second New Deal while helping to organize opposition to the attempts at Court Packing. FDR would have left office with the US still mired in the Great Depression and may well be remembered as a popular and well-meaning failure.

How would American Domestic politics have been altered by a very different man being the hero of anti-fascism and the man who ended the Depression? Many of the men who turned out to be Communist spies would likely have been purged out of a Gardner Administration fairly quickly for purely political reasons thus resulting in no Hiss-Chambers Controversy, no Richard Nixon and no Joe McCarthy. Eisenhower's entry into politics would have unquestionably been different, even if just as a function of the electoral calendar.

How would the Cold War have unfolded with a President more vigorous than FDR and more experienced than Truman at the helm during the key moments when Stalin was seizing various advantages? At least part of the Marshall Plan was about shipping abundant American food stuffs to Europe for the benefit of voters in swing states amid the dislocations of de-mobilizations, so the saving of Europe from post-war starvation would have still happened. Gardner's advisors would have been more Jesse Jones and less Henry Wallace.

Additionally, Gardner spoke with JFK on the phone the morning that he was assassinated. Gardner lived seemingly forever and would have hovered over American politics as a towering hero for 20 years in a manner that no popular former American President has during the 20th Century. Teddy Roosevelt cast a significant shadow but he still died in 1920, only 11 years after he left office and he was more of an outsider than Gardner would have been. Men like Truman, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Bush and Clinton did not exist post-White House as national heros. And only Johnson and possibly Nixon were as firmly embedded in the machinery of national politics prior to becoming President.


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epstein (1031 D)
Sun 14 Nov UTC
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Advertise Your Live Games Here!
I am providing this space to the community, free of charge, in case you would like to advertise an upcoming live game!

Or an older live game!
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epstein (1031 D)
Sun 14 Nov UTC
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Advertise Your Used Car Here!
Want to sell a used car? I didn't see a thread dedicated to that so I thought that I'd set one up. Kind of helpful, aren't I?
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David Hood (976 D)
Fri 12 Nov UTC
November 2021 Deadline News is out!
This latest edition on the Diplomacy Broadcast Network includes tournament news, other headlines, and a panel discussion about the use of a Top Board format in a Diplomacy event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9p5NV8UHlU
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The Ambassador (1840 D (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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butterhead (1174 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Malarky (1000 D)
03 Oct 21 UTC
A new Dipzine?
I posted this on webDip (and elsewhere) but then thought I should probably post here, too.
I'm looking to launch a new Dipzine called "Notes on a Napkin."
If you've anything you want to contribute to issue #1 drop me a line at diplomaticonpublishing@gmail.com. Go on - give it a go!
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epstein (1031 D)
02 Nov 21 UTC
How do I create a game here where I can test the game engine?
I want to play some solo games, or else make a few games that will start even if they are not full. How can I do this? Sorry I'm new.
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ubercacher16 (1716 D)
15 Oct 21 UTC
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Nexus Season Seven
The registrations for Nexus Season Seven have opened on Discord. Represent vDiplomacy in the extended deadline hobby's marquis event! PM me for more information or an invite to the discord and more information.
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David Hood (976 D)
23 Oct 21 UTC
Oct 2021 edition of Deadline News from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network
Has been released on YouTube. Panel discussion about cliques, interview with Oliver Lugg about The Game of Knife, and Nexus News - along with headlines from around the world of Diplomacy. For the next episode, I'd love some variant news from anyone here at VDip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riDxzKSR8T4&t=9s
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kaner406 (1586 D Mod (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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Anon (?? D)
16 Sep 21 UTC
Request for a game sitter
I currently have a position in the DSA game (gameID=41200), however, I expect to be out of cell reception from the 18th-27th (possibly ending a little earlier). If anyone is interested in watching the game for me for a while please reply below, and I will DM you. I can't tell you the country before you agree to take it, but I am not doing badly.

Thanks!
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Requirements to moderate game?
Is it 25 games and a minimum RR of 97? Thanks!
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Anon (?? D)
04 Oct 21 UTC
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Forced extend?
https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=49570#gamePanel

In this game, the mods forced a 5 day pause because of an issue a player had. I believe the mods overstepped their authority by not letting the players vote themselves on whether to extend/pause the game. Instead of a message unilaterally pausing the game, I would have appreciated a message explaining the situation and giving the option to extend.
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FxFocus (1000 D)
06 Oct 21 UTC
Baffled noob needs help..!
I tried to create my first game but there was no option to play bots that I could see?
So I came to the forum with the intention of searching for an answer but all I can see is a list of recent posts with no mention of categories or search option.
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Flame (1164 D)
05 Oct 21 UTC
Request about Links in Forum
Why not to show all the links in forum post as hyperlinks? Not only locals. It's so inconvenient...
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
04 Oct 21 UTC
The Aussies have let me down
I just discovered that there is a town in Australia called Texas. Furthermore, because it is on a state border, there are in fact two. And most importantly, Peter Sherwin was from Texas, Qld/NSW. So Australia's greatest cattle baron and largest private owner of ranchland was from Texas.
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Julius Ceasar (1099 D)
28 Sep 21 UTC
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Anon, No message, Europe Renovatio. Please join.
Please join this anonymous, no messaging, Europe Renovatio variant game. We still need 27 players. Let's make this work.
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I need feedback for this.
I've formulated rules revisions for fleets. I can assure you that criticisms will only be appreciated.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qSAmPNbd_PToPmyBGpHvGyXo_JtIv_4LFu0dY_hU7S4
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Zebulon Zirbou (992 D)
26 Sep 21 UTC
Diplo Ligue - Saison d’Automne 2021
La Diplo-Ligue redémarre !
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Nikitan (1487 D)
11 Sep 21 UTC
Abandoning a game peacefully
Is it possible to peacefully transfer a game to another player without ruining my reliability record? I'm a bit busy with stuff in life and want to give up a game in an ok-position. How do I do that?

(Or does anyone simply want to take my place? I know that the transfer option works but I don't know anyone to give it to)
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David Hood (976 D)
10 Sep 21 UTC
September 2021 Deadline News is out!
DBN's monthly news program is out for September, featuring a panel discussion about soloing, Nexus News, and headlines from around the world of Diplomacy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PoIjhjjRvg
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Fake Al (1747 D)
11 Apr 20 UTC
Bronze Age Diplomacy Development
New variant being developed in collaboration with a player from Discord. Set in 1350 BC.
https://vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=142
Will probably be looking to run a test soon.
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LexLuthor (938 D)
09 Jul 21 UTC
IMPERIAL II Players
Who would like to play games of Imperial II on a regular basis? I'd like start like a league and start keeping track of results. Need 13.
https://www.vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=81
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Anon (?? D)
05 Sep 21 UTC
Country swap
Anyone wanna swap with me in a game of imperial diplo? Life kinda got me down and I'm also not confident at my chances
https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=49371#gamePanel
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Flame (1164 D)
04 Sep 21 UTC
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Avatars?
What about making avatars awailiable in profile-page?
Please, check here:
https://webdiplomacy.ru/profile.php?userID=5
Please write the whole address in the browser address-line to get the access.
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