Isn't making this thread like buying a plane while you just hijacked one?

Is the map supposed to be build anywhere/fleet-army-switch?

We did a playtest with this one (via e-mail, 1.32 version): http://boardgamegeek.com/article/8351979

A major problem for the Stark player was getting engaged in the south because of a combination of lack of fleets and the Neck which was blocking army movement.

Your map includes even more impassable areas (not sure why there is one in the stormlands) so the whole movement is even more restrictive.

Aside from tricky geography Westeros maps have two more problems:
1) Because of IP rights it's very difficult to test them sufficiently:
Our e-mail test went very slowly and a lot of players dropped out. Hosting it on popular sides like this one could provide data but might cause trouble.
2) Lore-friendly enemies/foes without tons of special rules.
The biggest offender is House Stark. House Tully is blocking the landway to the south and fleets can't pass from the Narrow Sea to the Sunset Sea or vice versa. So you are tempted to ally yourself with Arryn or Greyjoy - you can't take on both at the same time. But then your only valid target (common enemy) is House Tully - which is hardly lore friendly.

The version I made while less lore friendly worked well when I tested it with my friends. Fewer impassable areas and more balanced starting positions.

The black areas in the reach represent the mountains of the Dornish Marches.

Anyway in the main scenario, the same player would control the Stark and Tully land

I think that it's going to be very difficult to make a balanced map out of this variant. Have you thought of expanding it to include the Free Cities? The map would be huge at that point, but it would balance out some of the powers that are currently OP - House Stark, Dorne and House Arryn.

Here's an updated version:
http://i.imgur.com/7YL5Cgc.png

Just as a suggestion I think that there is a way to work within the theme/setting to enhance the playability of the variant with some realistic Westeros political drama. The maps that I've seen using up to four SCs for starting positions create an instantly crowded map and drive the direction of the game. You might consider giving each major house a standing unit (army/fleet as applicable) and their *choice* of one loyal bannerman within their territory. The remaining bannermen would need to be rallied by a visit from forces from their liege lord. This would allow for optimal flexibility in the dynamics of the game and negotiations, and for houses to go to war before acquiring all of their bannermen SCs.

For example Stark starts with an army in Winterfell, but has a choice between a fleet in Deepwood Motte, White Harbor, or another army at Moat Calin. Difficult choices to be sure, but also great opportunities.

The idea for the scenario I'm working on now is at the beginning of the War of the Five Kings. The Lannisters will already be on alert (as they were in the books, invading the Riverlands in the middle-end of Book 1), which is why they will start with armies already in the Golden Tooth, Casterly Rock, Crakehall, and King's Landing. This will allow the Lannisters to quickly overrun the Riverlands. The North will have to decide between quickly rallying to the south to help the Tullys, or marshalling more strength before marching south.

The King in the Reach will have access to a large army, since Renly had upwards of 100,000 troops at his disposal. The fleet on the Arbor will be a neutral navy though, since the Lannisters held the Redwyne twins hostage.

The fleets of Storm's End will be for Stannis, along with the fleets of the Crownlands. Stannis will also have the mercenary pirates I talked about.

You could just invoke the Greece diplomacy rules. Everyone begins with only their capitals and must bid for smaller houses to support them.

So you have say, 3-4 bids on supply centres (small houses and King's Landing can be bid on), you can choose whichever ones you like, putting as many as you want on a single centre, if you feel the need. Whoever bids the highest on each centre gets it, all ties result in a neutral territory, and bids from ties and losses are essentially lost.

Haven't updated in awhile.

http://i.imgur.com/xHzRANQ.png

Just posting my latest. The Reach, Dorne, and the Iron Islands are all finished (at least in this first version).

GoT is such a passionate discussion point for so many people. Bear this in mind Chaqa when developing. You'll get lots of people's opinions on how it should ideally work. Personally I think while I'd dearly love to play the map, it will never faithfully translate to Dip seamlessly. But then again miracles bigger than that have occurred in creating variants. Good luck!

Oh, I've been working on some different ideas. I think it could work best as a SRG. I might even have to add a secondary area like the Economy Variant has.

Whats this big king's landing territory?

I haven't divided it up yet. I'm working on that now. There will be several SCs in there, mostly on the coast/islands (the Stannis supporters).

http://i.imgur.com/IxKPLhG.png

A few things:
1. There will be a "hidden army" of sorts that represents the King's Landing City Watch. This unit will always support hold the army/fleet in King's Landing, effectively doubling its strength. This makes capturing King's Landing very difficult. Other castles may get this bonus too (off the top of my head, Storm's End and Winterfell would be the ones). If I do this to those others, KL may get two. Uncertain as of yet.
2. The Wall and the Northern Mountains are present as territories, but will be impassable in all variants except the Dance with Dragons variant (you'll know why, if you've read).

For the War of the 5 Kings variant:
The Arbor will be a neutral SC with a standing fleet that has to be overcome. This is to represent the status of the Redwynes during the W5K.

The Shield Islands will have an army (and since it's an island, it can't move to any of the surrounding areas without a convoy).

The Iron Islands' units will be special if possible, where they can move anywhere (land or sea).

Mercenary company bidding may be a thing.

There will be a LOT of playtesting required. Hell, I may even add Essos at some point.

Is Essos the eastern continent where Daenerys is marching around?

Correct. That would be a very big time commitment though, so I would say it's unlikely to happen.

http://i.imgur.com/rdGIogA.png

Update: http://i.imgur.com/EUoSyMG.png

Been focusing on naval regions and Essos. Thoughts?

navigable rivers?

As of now, I only plan on having two rivers be navigable. The first is the Mander (which flows into Highgarden, in the Reach) and the Rhoyne (flowing north from Volantis).

Those are good choices, but wouldn't the river flowing from the Riverlands also be appropriate?

I was thinking about it, but the Trident being navigable (as in fleets sailing up it) wasn't really addressed in the books at all. I'll look into it again, though.

The Trident, that's it! It's never made clear that Tully has Ocean going ships or not, but they clearly had river based forces of some considerable nature. I think it would add some interesting playability that ties in with the Westeros setting and gives the Tully/Riverlands faction some added relevance and perhaps influence/power. I'd dabbled in creating a variant for PBEM play before and thought that it would be interesting to add a semi-unique geographic feature to each power

If I did make it navigable, you would likely be able to sail from Maidenpool to The Trident, and from there to The Twins or Riverrun. I know the Riverlands have some ocean vessels, at Seagard, but mostly river vessels I think.

You can easily give Seagard coasts, 1 river coast and 1 sea coast...

thought you might like this:
http://www.sermountaingoat.co.uk/map/versions/speculative_map.jpg

http://quartermaester.info/

Same map as I've been using. Seagard doesn't connect to the Trident because the rivers that it has in it are like streams, not deep enough for more than a little rowboat.