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Macca573 (1249 D)
27 Feb 20 UTC
Around the World Tournament
Come one, come all, to the newest tournament to hit V-dip's pages.

The Around the World Tournament!
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butterhead (975 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
Fri 10 PM UTC
Hybrid/Archipelago Provinces
Does vDip support these?
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drano019 (2457 D Mod)
17 Aug 20 UTC
Europa Renovatio - Team Game Interest
See below.
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The Dirge (1000 D)
Fri 03 PM UTC
New Canton Diplomacy: Canton Continuity
New game! Please join me! Choose your country! (Except Japan, Japan is taken lol)
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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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MagicalSand (1343 D)
Sun 22 Nov UTC
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New server
https://discord.gg/UPHzVjAXeG

Regarding the idea in the "idea" thread I posted a few days ago. I created the server. I'll be occasionally hosting vdip games on it to help them start faster if anyone is interested.
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Tener (1000 D)
Sat 21 Nov UTC
Standards of Acceptable Kibitzing
Are there any defined standards of acceptable vs unacceptable kibitzing/commentary by players during a vDiplomacy game? For example, no rascist or sexist comments? Is there a code of conduct?
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David Hood (977 D)
Sat 21 Nov UTC
November 2020 Deadline News is out!
Here is the link. In addition to headlines about tournaments, variants, league play, we have a panel discussion about how to adapt your play under different scoring systems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBt5hXcl6yY&t=6s
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The Ambassador (1959 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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FlamingEyeball (1000 D)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
Surrendering
How do you surrender in a game? I cannot find the option to do so
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The Ambassador (1959 D (B) (B))
Sun 15 Nov UTC
Dip stuff I never knew
Creating a thread for stuff I didn’t know eg adjudication rules where us didn’t go as I hoped. I’ll start...
The Ambassador (1959 D (B) (B))
Sun 15 Nov UTC
Got kicked out of a territory. Checked my retreat options on the map and there was a vacant SC... but as two units had just bounced there I wasn’t allowed to retreat there.
Lukas Podolski (1473 D)
Mon 16 Nov UTC
I suppose the idea is that since recent conflict had occurred there, it is unsafe for your weak, defeated, retreating army.
Mercy (2180 D (B))
Mon 16 Nov UTC
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The idea is that you can only retreat to territories you could've entered with a move action without help from other units. Since there was a bounce in the SC, a move to the SC would have been blocked, and hence you cannot retreat there, either.
kaner406 (1805 D Mod (B) (B))
Mon 16 Nov UTC
Amby's strategic depth grows - gives a new value to self bouncing a territory! I swear I've covered that scenario with you in at least one podcast - lol!
The Ambassador (1959 D (B) (B))
Mon 16 Nov UTC
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Yeah and I never drink on those podcasts. So no idea how I could’ve forgot
David E. Cohen (1000 D)
Mon 16 Nov UTC
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The logic behind this is that it is one Spring or Fall turn, which is separated into different phases, including a movement phase and if necessary a retreat phase. That is why, in the actual rule and in much of the FTF community, there are no negotiations prior to retreats.

This rule is countermanded by adjudication or house rule in much/most of the online community, since the retreat phase often has a deadline of hours or days, and regulating player communication for that length of time can be both difficult, and possibly deleterious to gameplay.
Lukas Podolski (1473 D)
Mon 16 Nov UTC
Oh I thought we are trying to look at the realistic basis behind these rules (strategy aside, units of equal strength are unlikely to overcome each other in a battle of brute force) instead of explaining these rules with other rules! Or at least this will be a fun thing to do?
Mittag (1626 D)
Mon 16 Nov UTC
I think there's a clear divide in each rule discussion between the people that care about rules being 'realistic' and the people that care about good game dynamics.
David E. Cohen (1000 D)
Tue 17 Nov UTC
That is not always the case. Realism is not relevant in relation to a number of rules issues.
Mercy (2180 D (B))
Tue 17 Nov UTC
I find all the rules to be realistic and intuitive.
CYFI (1340 D)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
One thing that took me totally by surprise when I switched to webdip from playdip was you cannot support another nation's unit into a territory where you have a unit.
drano019 (2457 D Mod)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
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Playdip lets you self-dislodge/support others to dislodge your own units? That's blatantly against the written rules of Dip.
CYFI (1340 D)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
No, you cannot self dislodge but you can support another into your territory
drano019 (2457 D Mod)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
I'm not sure I follow what you're saying the difference is. Can you use an example specifically laying out the difference and how it affects game play?
Mittag (1626 D)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
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You can support another unit into your own territory on webDip as well. It can serve as a defense by bouncing a second attack by a third power. However, your support will not count towards dislodging your own unit. But as drano said, that's just the official rules.
I kinda wish you could support to dislodge your own units since it would allow for more flexibility with builds, but at the same time it wouldn't be realistic plus it's against the Dip rules.
Sky_Hopper (512 D)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
Pretty sure a fleet in Gascony can support a fleet from Portugal into the south coast of Spain.
David E. Cohen (1000 D)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
Correct.
CYFI (1340 D)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
Also moving from Spain nc to Portugal and Portugal to spain sc will cause a bounce
drano019 (2457 D Mod)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
I think this thread is showing that we should all probably reread the rules very carefully, as it can offer important tidbits of knowledge that can give us the upper hand. It appears that all these things noted are mentioned in the official Wizards of the Coast Dip rules:

CYFI - the bounce between Spain and Portugal:

"A Fleet entering one of these provinces enters along one coast and can then move to a province adjacent to that coast only. The Fleet, nevertheless, is considered to be occupying the entire province" - Therefore Spain (nc) occupies the entire province of Spain, therefore Spain (nc) - Portugal and Portugal - Spain (sc) are a bounce, since Spain is occupied and Portugal cannot dislodge it.

Sky Hopper - Gascony fleet support to South Coast of Spain:

"A Fleet that can move to a province with two separate coasts (a Fleet in the Mid-Atlantic, for example) can support another Army or Fleet into that province (in this case Spain), without regard to separate coastlines" - Mid-Atlantic mentioned, but Gascony has the same situation. Gascony can move to a province with two separate coasts (Spain) therefore it can support another army or fleet into that province (Spain) without regard to separate coastlines.

Amby - Retreating to a territory where a bounce took place:

"A unit can’t retreat to:
• a province that is occupied;
• the province from which the attacker came; or
• a province that was left vacant by a standoff during
the same turn."
The Ambassador (1959 D (B) (B))
Thu 19 Nov UTC
Thanks @drano


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Player5 (2198 D)
14 Mar 20 UTC
Variant development questions (Pits of Horror)
Hello! I'm trying to develop a new variant and would like some help debugging some things. If anyone wants to help I would be very happy!!

I have uploaded a map.png, and a mapNames.png but I still can't see anything in the "Map" interface (some error gets thrown)?
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MagicalSand (1343 D)
Thu 19 Nov UTC
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idea
i suppose i could ask this here. im thinking of creating a diplomacy discord server. one of the games on it will be vDIp along with conspiracy, web dip, and diplicity. would you guys be interested in joining for the vdip section? it certainly would not be anything like a full fledged Vdip server. just something to help set up fun games and fill games like these. i just want to gauge the interest of the community first.
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kaner406 (1805 D Mod (B) (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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The Ambassador (1959 D (B) (B))
11 Apr 20 UTC
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Big Hitters vDip game
I'm interested in creating a new game for players with 2000+ vDip points. Password protected.

If you meet this criteria let me know here that you're interested. Once we know how many players, we can decide which variant etc.
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Minra Von Arnim (1608 D)
Mon 16 Nov UTC
An issue with the interactive map
I note that in the interactive map it's not uncommon for the icon that cancels the order to hide the territory I'd like to select. I think this reduces interactive map usability especially in maps with smaller territories (Imperial Dip is a clear example). A simple solution would be to move the icon further away from the selected unit. I don't know how complicated it would be to implement this change tho.
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The Ambassador (1959 D (B) (B))
Tue 10 Nov UTC
Who will be chosen?
Read on...
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Devonian (1871 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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Anon (?? D)
02 Nov 20 UTC
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Is this metagaming?
Let's say that through experience of playing in the same game as someone, I have noticed that a player has been very untrustworthy and deceiving. Am I allowed to use that knowledge in another game, and remember to be cautious around that player? Or is it metagaming?

gameID=45898 <---- that is unrelated. Just want to keep this anonymous.
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aaronmx2 (1333 D)
Tue 10 Nov UTC
Voteing to Concede to a Team
I'm just wondering if it would be possible for the DRAW votes and CONCEDE votes to be used together. If two people have been working together and will clearly win, right now, if everyone else wants to concede, only one of the victors can get the points. If DRAW could be used in conjunction, then the points could be split between DRAW voters. Obviously this would require good faith of those conceding to not choose DRAW.
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micahbales (962 D)
08 Nov 20 UTC
Illegal Move Allowed in Sengoku Nagashino (V6)
Hi folks, Not sure where to take this question, but we had a player illegally retreat from Mino to 10 in this game: https://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=45690

Can a moderator please look into this?
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ghostronin (1213 D)
07 Nov 20 UTC
RSS Feed for New Games?
Does the site support RSS feeds for new games? If not via the site, is there a way to do it via 3rd party?

I'm aware of the RSS feed for notices specific to myself. I like this feature. However, if I'm looking for new games I'd like to be able to apply filters and create an RSS feed for myself - for example if I was only interested in WTA games...whenever there was new posted WTA game it would go to my feed. Thoughts, workarounds?
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DeanDude (1000 D)
06 Nov 20 UTC
Email notifications.
Hi I’m new here. Are there email notifications that will alert me to turns or in game messages. I’m sorry if this has been asked before I’m just trying to get a better feel of the game. Thank you
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Mittag (1626 D)
06 Nov 20 UTC
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FvA Opening Database
I was convinced that I should learn some Tableau. So I put together an opening database for FvA
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Chris McEwan (674 D)
25 Oct 20 UTC
Tees valley
Hi - anybody living in Tees Valley in the UK
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You don't want to see this map
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457218478659731465/770001163185553418/diplomap.png

I was wondering if anyone knew where I could play this map? I figured it would probably be here but can't find it in the variants. (I didn't make this but I'm a big fan of it).
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Concede
What is the point of concede?
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Anon (?? D)
02 Nov 20 UTC
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New game
Classic 1898 - Fog

https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=46377
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Anon (?? D)
02 Nov 20 UTC
New game (2)
1898 with even more fog

https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=46378
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