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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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butterhead (1174 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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On the subject of inverted time continuum simulation in Diplomacy
That said, the arguments in favour of this idea are the followings;
Predisposition of the game and its written orders to manipulate in-game moves history,
Presence of a game master that can keep orders written for the future secret,
Sheer coolness of doing such a thing
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epstein (1031 D)
14 Nov 21 UTC
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Advertise Your Live Games Here!
I am providing this space to the community, free of charge, in case you would like to advertise an upcoming live game!

Or an older live game!
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Relax™ (968 D)
28 Dec 21 UTC
Xbox live
anyone on xbox?
i got a 2 month subscription reward from discord. anyone want it?
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Zebulon Zirbou (916 D)
31 Dec 21 UTC
Assemblée Générale 2022 de l’AFJD
Cher joueur de Diplomacy,
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The Ambassador (1763 D (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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Requirements to moderate game?
Is it 25 games and a minimum RR of 97? Thanks!
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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
12 Dec 21 UTC
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A comment on common courtesy
Stuff happens in life and people occasionally need help from Mods to exit games without destroying the games for other players. Players who need Mods to remove them and delay games should provide a list of all of their games to the Mods. This is common courtesy.
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David Hood (976 D)
11 Dec 21 UTC
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December 2021 Deadline News is out!
Featuring interviews, news headlines, and a panel discussion about balance of power considerations in Diplomacy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l93XUc4Odg
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User tag
Hey y'all, I made this account a while ago, and, am no longer vibing with my choice of name. Is there a way to change it without deleting this one and making a new account?
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chy (1891 D)
08 Dec 21 UTC
Rule confirmation
Will the game go to X-way draw if X players vote draw and all other players vote concede, where X is a positive integer greater than 1?
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Anon (?? D)
06 Dec 21 UTC
Gunboat support? Sticky Keys is filled with cheaters?
https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=50882

In this game Britain has supported Russia on Autumn 1941 and convoyed France the turn before. This is a No Messaging game. Are they teaming?
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Twilight Struggle & Imperial Board Game
I'm interested in one/both of these board games. I'm very curious to hear opinions about these from DIP players.
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User tag
Hey y'all, I made this account a while ago, and, am no longer vibing with my choice of name. Is there a way to change it without deleting this one and making a new account?
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Jetam (825 D)
03 Dec 21 UTC
Developing a new map
How to digitalize my own diplomacy map? It works on paper and I would like to share it with Y'all
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CrimiClown (1091 D)
02 Dec 21 UTC
Cannot post to modforum
Has anyone had this issue? I cannot post on the modforum to unpause some games for us.
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AJManso4 (1733 D)
15 Nov 21 UTC
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Error message when trying to open my games
Error triggered: assert(): Calling assert() with a string argument is deprecated.


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Hirnsaege (2115 D)
17 Nov 21 UTC
@SierraLeone:

having external libraries that still are PHP5-only is hard to imagine but possible (and hard to fix if it's really the case, because age-old code from another developer that obviously has lost interest in supporting it ... good luck).

having some own php scripts with php5 commands that are not supported anymore by php7/8, or require more precise typing of variables, expressions, ... is very likely to be the cause here ... after all, php is an interpreted / realtime-compiled language, so changing the interpreter may change the results.
Theoretically it's not a difficult thing to fix, depending on how organized the codebase is – find the culprits, replace these commands with the more modern and robust versions as stated in the documentation, done. It might even be it's just one single line of code somewhere that makes everything stop working, like a database query that requires other syntax now, or a regular expression that needs to be more precise now ... It might also be that it's a messy business if the code base is less clean, having changes in a lots of places.
SierraLeone (1363 D)
17 Nov 21 UTC
Both webDiplomacy and vDip are mentioned at times - was one created from the other? From a software perspective, is vDip an entirely separate codebase, or are there still shared components?
Hirnsaege (2115 D)
17 Nov 21 UTC
This is the main codebase: https://github.com/kestasjk/webDiplomacy
– webdiplomacy is like the main branch or main user of it: https://www.webdiplomacy.net/developers.php
– vdiplomacy is a parallel setup with focus on new variants, but the underlying base is more or less the same (though not necesarily the latest version)
– there are others too that went more or less far off the main branch
Strider (1556 D)
17 Nov 21 UTC
Would it be possible to get an email from admin when site is back online?
tobi1 (1997 D Mod (S))
17 Nov 21 UTC
@Strider: I do not know how feasible that would be. At least there is not automated method to send a mail to all active members of the site. But games will surely get a few days of extensions when we resume so there should be plenty of time for everyone to notice. Also I will try to give a more concrete date in advance when that is possible.

@SierraLeone: WebDip was initially created in the mid 2000s by kestas and forked by Oli into what would then become vdiplomacy. Both forks where developed in parallel since then but in the past we tried to merge new features of webdip into the vdip code base. However, due to the grown number of distinct vdip features in logic this requires more effort nowadays than simply merging the changes from the webdip repository.
Backend code is exclusively written in php and partially relies on features that changed with php 7. Adjustments for php 7 were made on WebDip last year but have not arrived here yet.
Flame (1127 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
Actually I don't understand hoster politics to stop php5-service.
Hirnsaege (2115 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
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the php maintainers themselves stopped supporting php5 --> if there ever is a major security hole in the framework, it won't be fixed in reasonable time, if at all.

this means the hosters are in danger to run non-secure software on their servers, and if some 0-day exploit pops up, all they could do is let it destroy customers data until notized, and then pull the plug very fast, with no one able to export their data, etc. from that moment on (remember most people hosting things are really professionals). this is no professional policy for a service provider.

so pushing the customers out of php5 was the way to go the last two years, with lots of information about the hows and whys coming via newsletters, letters, serverlog warnings, ... at some point, shutting it down is the way to go to minimize risk and optimize costs for maintaining it in parallel to 7, 7.1, 7.2, 8, ...

(it's interesting to see that expensive, service driven hosters still support it, but you payed for it indirectly).
Relax™ (968 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
well this is a drag!
Flame (1127 D)
18 Nov 21 UTC
@Hirnsaege
Thanx
SierraLeone (1363 D)
19 Nov 21 UTC
@tobi1 thanks. From my experience, branched code always does indeed diverging as you've alluded trying to merge in code from other branches simply becomes harder and harder over time.
Could this have anything to do with the recent change of clock, daylight saving time, for some cities?
CCR (1957 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
No
CCR (1957 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
Could we proceed with the other games, error free?
Hirnsaege (2115 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
none of the games are processing, as the the calculation of results, previews, interactive input, ... is not working, it's not just one game.
SierraLeone (1363 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
Any update on progress?
tobi1 (1997 D Mod (S))
21 Nov 21 UTC
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Unfortunately but somewhat expected, the upgrade to the newest webdip version did not go smooth and appeared also to be insufficient for our current issues. Thus, we are not able to continue yet.

I am currently testing the updated setup and hope to not find too many more issues. Due to limited spare time in the upcoming days and uncertainity on how many issues still need to be fixed, I cannot give a reliable date by now. Might be a few days but might also take two or more weeks if much functionality needs attention.


@CCR: According to our error logs the routine to generate the board map is also affected by the server upgrade and broken. Thus, I expect every game to break with the next phase transition when map images can no longer be retrieved from cache.
erikip107 (2266 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
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As long as it may take, I think I speak for everybody in that we appreciate the time you are (all the mods) putting in to get the site up and running again. Thank you!
SierraLeone (1363 D)
21 Nov 21 UTC
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Just to echo erikip107 .... absolutely appreciate the effort being put into sorting this out. Thanks for the update, and I hope for your sakes you don't find too many more problems.
Lightsong (1274 D)
22 Nov 21 UTC
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Absolutely appreciate the effort as well. Is there anything that we members of the community can do to help? I am sure there are a number of us out here with programming experience.
MiraiNikkiSan (1134 D)
22 Nov 21 UTC
I have limited programming experience but I'm willing to help however I can
Flame (1127 D)
23 Nov 21 UTC
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I don't know if I could but I am ready to help too.
ubercacher16 (1773 D)
24 Nov 21 UTC
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Thanks everyone for dealing with this
tobi1 (1997 D Mod (S))
24 Nov 21 UTC
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A patch is now sent to our Git repository and will get deployed on the server soon. Fingers crossed that I missed not too many breaking issues. :)
Chuttbugger (2350 D)
24 Nov 21 UTC
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Three cheers for tobi1, the hero of vDiplomacy!
SierraLeone (1363 D)
24 Nov 21 UTC
That is good news. Thanks again.
Udvarid (1031 D)
25 Nov 21 UTC
Hurray!
Hirnsaege (2115 D)
25 Nov 21 UTC
Thanks in advance for the fix ... going to be busy for the server and the players when it hit's the live version :-)

As for helping:
Server backend is not an area where i could deliver quality work, but if there ever is need for help in frontend (HMTL, CSS, JS, UX, UI, Graphics, icon systems ... anything that lives in the browser), i'm ready to contribute.
(i even had made some concepts a few years ago to improve usability and overview without changing the feel *too* much and was in contact with webdiplomacy people and Oli, but it never proceeded further).
AJManso4 (1733 D)
25 Nov 21 UTC
how will the process of getting the games gojng again work? Like 4 days added to all game phases or smth?
AJManso4 (1733 D)
25 Nov 21 UTC
time for everyone to realize it’s back up haha
tobi1 (1997 D Mod (S))
26 Nov 21 UTC
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Main update was now installed successfully. There are still some open issues that require some attention before we can start again. I believe that we can resume game processing by the start of the upcoming week.

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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
28 Nov 21 UTC
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A Sad Anniversary Today.
One full year.

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David E. Cohen (1000 D)
28 Nov 21 UTC
A Sad Anniversary Today.
One full year.

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gopher27 (1606 D Mod)
14 Nov 21 UTC
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Question for Alternative History nerds
In January of 1920, when Kolchak resigned in favor of Semyonov, a Japanese puppet, what would have happened if the Japanese had gotten Semyonov's Buryat puppet state to roll up the Trans-Siberian Railroad as they withdrew from Omsk?
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epstein (1031 D)
14 Nov 21 UTC
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Advertise Your Used Car Here!
Want to sell a used car? I didn't see a thread dedicated to that so I thought that I'd set one up. Kind of helpful, aren't I?
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David Hood (976 D)
12 Nov 21 UTC
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November 2021 Deadline News is out!
This latest edition on the Diplomacy Broadcast Network includes tournament news, other headlines, and a panel discussion about the use of a Top Board format in a Diplomacy event:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9p5NV8UHlU
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Malarky (1000 D)
03 Oct 21 UTC
A new Dipzine?
I posted this on webDip (and elsewhere) but then thought I should probably post here, too.
I'm looking to launch a new Dipzine called "Notes on a Napkin."
If you've anything you want to contribute to issue #1 drop me a line at diplomaticonpublishing@gmail.com. Go on - give it a go!
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epstein (1031 D)
02 Nov 21 UTC
How do I create a game here where I can test the game engine?
I want to play some solo games, or else make a few games that will start even if they are not full. How can I do this? Sorry I'm new.
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ubercacher16 (1773 D)
15 Oct 21 UTC
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Nexus Season Seven
The registrations for Nexus Season Seven have opened on Discord. Represent vDiplomacy in the extended deadline hobby's marquis event! PM me for more information or an invite to the discord and more information.
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David Hood (976 D)
23 Oct 21 UTC
Oct 2021 edition of Deadline News from the Diplomacy Broadcast Network
Has been released on YouTube. Panel discussion about cliques, interview with Oliver Lugg about The Game of Knife, and Nexus News - along with headlines from around the world of Diplomacy. For the next episode, I'd love some variant news from anyone here at VDip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riDxzKSR8T4&t=9s
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kaner406 (1552 D Mod (B))
08 Sep 18 UTC
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Variant Development Thread
This thread is made for the express purpose of cutting down of multiple threads that deal with new variants, ideas, concepts etc...
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Anon (?? D)
16 Sep 21 UTC
Request for a game sitter
I currently have a position in the DSA game (gameID=41200), however, I expect to be out of cell reception from the 18th-27th (possibly ending a little earlier). If anyone is interested in watching the game for me for a while please reply below, and I will DM you. I can't tell you the country before you agree to take it, but I am not doing badly.

Thanks!
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Anon (?? D)
04 Oct 21 UTC
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Forced extend?
https://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=49570#gamePanel

In this game, the mods forced a 5 day pause because of an issue a player had. I believe the mods overstepped their authority by not letting the players vote themselves on whether to extend/pause the game. Instead of a message unilaterally pausing the game, I would have appreciated a message explaining the situation and giving the option to extend.
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