Finally a new variant to play => Balkans 1860.
Created by: Benjamin Hester.
- Have fun, Oli.

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A place to discuss topics/games with other webDiplomacy players.
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Argentinean Empire (955 D)
27 Apr 17 UTC
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Word Association Thread
Hello! I saw a thread like this on WebDip. We start with a word, and you then post the one word that pops into your mind after you read that word. The first word is FIRST.
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nopunin10did (1011 D)
Tue 03 PM UTC
Win Conditions less than majority
Some of you with a bit more experience at vDip can clue me in here.

How does vDip currently adjudicate when more than one player meets the SC requirement for victory simultaneously? More details below.
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Jamie_T (937 D)
Sun 10 Sep UTC
vDiplomacy Forum Mafia
Would anyone be interested in playing forum based Mafia / Werewolf here, on the vDip forum?
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Technostar (1178 D)
03 Sep 17 UTC
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"Divided States" - New variant in progress
"Divided States" is a variant where every US state is a country. I am looking for advice about it. See reply for details.
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Dr. Recommended (1204 D Mod (B))
24 Dec 16 UTC
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Variant Tournaments
I've really enjoyed playing variant-specific tournaments such as the Known World 15x15 currently underway.
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butterhead (975 D)
21 May 12 UTC
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Advertise your NON-live games here!
In an effort to compromise the pro-ads versus anti-ads for games: Post here for your non-live games to cut down on the number of ads but still advertise games. Post game link, WTA or PPSC, and the bet. Note: this doesn't count for special rules games.
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Known World Tournament
Awhile back, kaner proposed a Known World gunboat tournament in which 15 participants would play 15 games, one with each nation. I searched back for the thread, then just decided to start a new one. I want to see if there would be sufficient interest in this to try to get it off the ground.
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fasces349 (1058 D)
26 Dec 10 UTC
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Advertise live games here
Like in webdiplo, this thread will be used to help people find live games
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Devonian (1860 D)
29 Jun 15 UTC
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1v1 Tournament Rules, Rankings, and Challenges
Official Rules for 1v1 Ladder Tournament
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gman314 (1016 D)
12 Mar 11 UTC
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Winning
Oli won.
On Imperial Civilization's off-topic thread (link inside), there was a brief stint of Second to Last Person to Post Wins. Now that the thread is closed, Oli won.
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BenjaminHester (1058 D)
Thu 14 Sep UTC
While I'm going through the long slog of rebuilding Sengoku...
...any interest in a vDip implementation of my most recent, and arguably best balanced variant that rolled off the assembly line before my last long Dip sabbatical?

http://dipwiki.com/index.php?title=Balkans1860
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BenjaminHester (1058 D)
11 Aug 17 UTC
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obsolete Sengoku variant
Hi all, designer of Sengoku here. I would love to get the latest version of Sengoku in use on this system, as it is much more balanced. Found here: http://dipwiki.com/index.php?title=Sengoku
Even if the DP system, can't be used, the version at http://nairenvorbeck.angelfire.com/ is still better than the one in use currently. Poor Mori needs a fair chance :-) Anyone willing/able to help me get these implemented?
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NManock18 (1000 D)
Mon 18 Sep UTC
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Variants
Are there any tips on software to use for designing a variant? Thanks!
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faded box (1108 D)
Tue 05 Sep UTC
live
anyone up for a live 1v1? u can choose map if u dont like one i got posted
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Vauban (1068 D)
Sun 17 Sep UTC
Colour for Neutral Province
Check below
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nopunin10did (1011 D)
30 May 17 UTC
1900 for vDip: Progress Report (ongoing)
As mentioned in another thread, I've been working on the code and assets necessary to port Baron M. Powell's variant 1900 to vDip and/or webDip.

In order to keep myself accountable in some fashion to actually complete this task, and not just talk about it, I've created a small project plan where I can mark my progress.
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Cometk (1000 D)
Fri 15 Sep UTC
Replacing Inactive Member
how does my group go about replacing an inactive member?
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President Eden (1640 D)
Wed 13 Sep UTC
Is England* vs Turkey truly balanced?
The stats spread on England* vs Turkey is innocuous enough. England* wins 55% of games which do not end in a draw, Turkey wins 45%. England is favored, but not to the extent that Turkey can't win; the game is not balanced, but it also isn't drastically skewed either way.

However, I have recently encountered an opening from England that I'm struggling to counter as Turkey.
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michael_b (999 D)
12 Aug 17 UTC
Question: Adding Variant(s)
Please see reply.
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Anon (?? D)
Tue 12 Sep UTC
Gunboat with me
Hey, if anyone is interested in playing a beginner gunboat with me (I suck at gunboat) holla at me for the password http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=32229
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Anon (?? D)
Tue 12 Sep UTC
"...tuesday" game sequel is out...
Pls play this WWII map...
Remember, only on Tuesdays!
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=32223
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michael_b (999 D)
Mon 11 Sep UTC
Strong British Position
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=31381
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The Ambassador (1596 D (B) (B))
Wed 06 Sep UTC
Online Dip Pet Peeves
We're introducing a new segment to the podcast. Have your say (more below)...
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BenjaminHester (1058 D)
Thu 07 Sep UTC
@abadu - so it is. when I take my years-long sabbaticals from Diplomacy, it's usually because the last game I played made me feel bad about what I had to do to win.
ishirkmywork (1160 D)
Thu 07 Sep UTC
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when self righteous players complain about my use of vulgarity infused profanity and cutting, expertly aimed insults to their character, wits, and and misplaced sense of self worth.
mouse (1826 D)
Fri 08 Sep UTC
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People who go all-in against minor slights, such as single-centre border readjustments, ignoring the larger state of the map.
StartPlayer (999 D)
Fri 08 Sep UTC
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@BobRoss, point 1 I agree entirely. Its entirely possible to be at war one game and not in another as every game is a separate dynamic.

point 2 Is where I disagree, I like to keep everything that happens in one game in that game, I don't think that should then be shared in another game at all.

On a related note, how would people feel if two players found themselves in more than one game together and started making deals across games, ie "if you do this in Game A I will do something in Game B"?
abadu (1446 D)
Fri 08 Sep UTC
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That's metagaming and explicitly forbidden in the rules. I guess there will always be at least some subconscious preconceptions when you meet a player for the second time which is why I prefer anonymous games.
@Start - on Bob's point 2, I agree with both of you to an extent. Using the knowledge that a certain player likes to stab early or does this that or the other in certain circumstances is smart play. Sharing that knowledge with others, however, is metagaming (and also giving too much info is bad play anyhow).
Deals across games is an explicit rule violation unless part of a tournament where it is accepted (not all tournaments, only those where it has been agreed upon by the TD and players).
RUFFHAUS 8 (2501 D)
Fri 08 Sep UTC
The use of the term metagaming to describe the behavior of crossgaming. Metagaming is an example of play of a game or games within a larger game/competition such as a tournament. In these instances metagaming is not only allowed, it is intended and expected. Crossgaming is an entirely different animal of unethical play, one example being the game A, game B scenario mentioned above. It also includes revenge, automatic alliances, alliances based on real life friendships, and an array of other motivations outside the game itself. The continued misuse of the word metagaming adds confusion and serves to perpetuate the behavior.
G-Man (2397 D)
Fri 08 Sep UTC
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Yeah, I'm in my first non-anonymous game in a while and I can already see players can't help being affected by those they come across in other games. I really prefer to play anonymous, as it really cuts down on cross-gaming.
@RUFF - Meta means "outside" so technically crossgaming is a form of metagaming.
Not that wikipedia is perfect but...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta

Meta (from the Greek preposition and prefix meta- (μετά-) meaning "after", or "beyond")
I would say all of your examples are "beyond the game" and therefore, metagaming.
Oh, and it can't be crossgaming if two players join the site and, in their very first game, team up in an unbreakable alliance because they are real life friends (one of your examples) as there hasn't been multiple games to cross over.
Unstupid (778 D)
Fri 08 Sep UTC
Someone who joins a game and does not tell the truth once in the entire game - diplomacy is about lying selectively. I did it once. Never again
ubercacher16 (1116 D)
Fri 08 Sep UTC
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When people "go for the draw" from the beginning of the game and never even try to solo at all.

Also when people get mad at you for stabbing them, it's just a game after all!
RUFFHAUS 8 (2501 D)
Fri 08 Sep UTC
Yes, crossgaming is a form of metagaming. It's the unethical kind. Not all metagaming is unethical. All crossgaming is. Original point stands.
RUFFHAUS 8 (2501 D)
Fri 08 Sep UTC
"Oh, and it can't be crossgaming if two players join the site and, in their very first game, team up in an unbreakable alliance because they are real life friends (one of your examples) as there hasn't been multiple games to cross over"

This is just cheating. And you're diffusing the point with you stubborness. I didn't say that crossgaming was the only improper metagaming. I said that it's annoying when people refer to crossgaming as metagaming. It's like referring to Rugby as football, and saying that goalkeeper should be sent off for a foul. Rugby is a form of football, but it doesn't have goalleeers.

Metagaming = legal and illegal behavior
Crossgaming = illegal behavior

Specifics matter here, particularly when so many players cannot understand why this behavior is a problem.
The Ambassador (1596 D (B) (B))
Sat 09 Sep UTC
Folks - I'll tally these up in about 24 hours, and pick one to get input from the various site admins (Kaner and I plan to record mid next week and will cover one of these off.)

So keep the ball rolling!
mouse (1826 D)
Sat 09 Sep UTC
Crossgaming *is* a type of metagaming, though. That's how subsets work.

Existing alliances from out of game are an illegal form of metagaming, but they are not crossgaming (unless the 'out of game' is 'from another game', which was not the scenario presented by YCHTT), since crossgaming requires multiple games to play across.
Strider (989 D)
Sat 09 Sep UTC
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People who complain about lack of games and varients but do they start games? Current game list is dominated by tournaments... this must be causing game start ups to drop off.
Gotcha, RUFF. I thought you were setting out a distinction as if the two were different sets entirely, not crossgaming a subset of metagaming. Sorry for the confusion.
So experience meta = legal (using your knowledge of how one acts in certain scenarios to manipulate the outcome to your advantage).

Life gaming (where people who know each other IRL and choose to have unbreakable alliances or communicate outside the game as a result) = illegal

Crossgaming (except when expected meta for multi game tournaments) = illegal

External factor gaming (bourse affecting orders and such) varies from scenario to scenario and circumstance to circumstance.
The Ambassador (1596 D (B) (B))
Mon 11 Sep UTC
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Hi everyone - thanks to those who posted their peeves &/or +1'ed others.

I'll collate the results and Kaner and I will progressively discuss these over the coming episodes of the podcast.


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Jamie_T (937 D)
16 Aug 17 UTC
Hello!
I have been banned from webDiplomacy because Zultar wants it to be a safe space for neo-Nazis and other white supremacists.

You nice people will have to put up with me instead (until I get banned here, I guess).
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TheatreVarus (999 D)
Sat 09 Sep UTC
Dueling
Looking for someone to play a few friendly duels on the Cold War map. Just picked the game back up and I want to get some practice in. Anyone interested can DM me.
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kaner406 (1524 D Mod (B) (B))
24 Sep 16 UTC
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I've been Boursed!!! 2016
Hi all, when Amby and I were recording our recent podcast (diplomacygames.com) the topic of Bourse came up, and I got really excited and thought that I would try to get another game of this variant running...
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The Ambassador (1596 D (B) (B))
02 Sep 16 UTC
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New podcast for online Dip games
Hi everyone

Kaner and I have started a podcast about playing Diplomacy online....
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d-ice (1517 D)
Wed 06 Sep UTC
Force drawn games
Games with fixed end year are (for ranking purposes) treated like solo victories for the power with the largest SC tally (even when PPSC scoring is used). Is that intentional? Not that I think it matters much to me, but I do find it rather odd, it would seem like the more logical approach would be that they are treated as force drawn, or possibly use affect ranking differently depending on scoring system used.
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kaner406 (1524 D Mod (B) (B))
12 Aug 17 UTC
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Update regarding vPoints/Rankings
See below:
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jason4747 (931 D)
03 Sep 17 UTC
“Vietnam: Apocalypse Then” – new variant in development
I am working on a Diplomacy variant and am seeking opinions on the board and design. See below
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