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25 Nov 12 UTC

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just curious

Just out of curiosity, why didn't this game draw?
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=9372#gamePanel
Only 2 active players, both voted draw

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10 Nov 12 UTC

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FMDW Facebreaker EOG

FLYING MOONSAULT DRAGON WHIP FACEBREAKER
Known World 901 AD
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=8963#gamePanel

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18 Nov 12 UTC

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Wanted: "Where art thou dear NATO"!

Modern Diplomacy! 2 days per turn! What's not to love?! Starts in 3 days and several more are needed. Join up all you Modern Diplomacy fans!

ID=11089

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17 Nov 12 UTC

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Hall of Reliability?

Might I suggest a list of players with the highest number of phases without missing a turn?

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20 Nov 12 UTC

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First Enlightenment and Succession game

Join! http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=11132

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20 Nov 12 UTC

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Anyone Up for a live 1v1 Game?

PM me or let me know in this thread.

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20 Nov 12 UTC

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1v1 Live Join!!!

gameID=11137

Join my game!

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18 Nov 12 UTC

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wanted: ambitious player willing to play WW4 team game WITHOUT official teammate

ambitious player willing to play WW4 team game WITHOUT official teammate?

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20 Nov 12 UTC

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Thanks for the pause folks.

Back in business again.

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19 Nov 12 UTC

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Two more players needed!

The game Flames of War needs two more players! Long phases for relaxed game play. No defined alliances; you may ally as you choose. It's the second world war in Europe the way you would choose to fight it! Who will take up the challenge?

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19 Nov 12 UTC

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Draws in Rinascimento

http://vdiplomacy.com/variants.php?variantID=29

Decima Legio (1987 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

As far as I know, this is the only variant on the website with a specific pot distribution system after a win, for example:
winning as Pisa is will be rewarded more than winning as Naples while surviving with 5 SCs as the French will be rewarded more than surviving with 5 SCs as Venezia.

This feature is briefly explained in the "New pot distribution system" variant description paragraph, and it applies only to games ending in a solo.
The standard equal split of the pot applies to games ending in a draw.

Rinascimento games often ended in a draw 80% of times: 34 games out of 43.

I don't feel like drawing as Venezia, Napoli or the Papal States is worth the same as drawing with Siena, Pisa, the French or Ferrara. Drawing as a major power is easier than drawing as a minor city state.

Shouldn't the pot distribution system (or something similar) be applied to draws too?

Oli (977 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

This original pot distribution is a highly fragile kind of code. It sucked away 1 month of my life, and I better not touch this code again... :-)

goldfinger0303 (2136 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

I agree. There needs to be some sort of incentive for people playing as Ferrara, Siena, etc, to band together in the beginning and fight off the larger powers.

Leif_Syverson (1626 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

The easiest way to do this imo (Oli tell me if I'm right), is to have an option for a mod/GM to assign the points arbitrarily after a draw and make such a draw type an SRG Rinascimento game.

Also having the ability for a mod/GM to assign an arbitrary ratio of points in a draw/solo after a game is finished could open up the possibility for other SRG's where different pot distributions are desired than normal.

Decima Legio (1987 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

lol, Oli, 1 month?
That must be troublesome!

Actually I'm not thinking to change the pot-distribution code, I'm thinking that it would be more fair to the variant if the code will be applied to draws too.
I imagine this kind of change wouldn't force you to edit the code.

In any case, the opinion of some Rinascimento players is required.
My opinion might not be in majority.

goldfinger0303 (2136 )
19 Nov 12 UTC
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Thinking a bit more on this, it could backfire. If Venice is to earn significantly less in a draw due to the fact that France and Ferrara are still alive, wouldn't that *increase* its incentive to knock them out before the draw? In this case, players would immediately eliminate the smallest players because then the ones who disproportionately benefit per SC will be gone.

Leif_Syverson (1626 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

Another reason to make it GM administered SRG option.. not everyone might want it and thus it could be applied when desired and not in all cases.

Rancher (1275 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

I am thinking similar to goldfinger on this one ... I think we might actually get a negative effect that ends up hurting Siena, Pisa, Ferarra etc ... I guess it seems to me that no matter what the variant is, a draw is a draw is a draw

RUFFHAUS 8 (2490 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

"Shouldn't the pot distribution system (or something similar) be applied to draws too? "

Yes, and for more variants than this one. The Draw result should always be weighted heavier, and evenly distributed, but there should also be a reward from specific achievements, high center counts, near misses on solos, etc.

goldfinger0303 (2136 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

Don't reward someone for a near miss on a solo. You solo or you don't. Period. I agree with Rancher. A draw is a draw

Decima Legio (1987 )
19 Nov 12 UTC

I disagree in extending this system to other variants.
Rinascimento has its own peculiarities. It’s strongly different from the others, by concept.
In all the other variants, every player has been given almost the same chances.

@goldfinger, Rancher
Or it may not backfire, as you suggested, giving more incentive to the minor powers for an early formation of small city-state leagues. This effect is subjective. I don’t think it can be predicted in large numbers.
Yes, a draw is a draw. This statement is a good argument in any variant… but Rinascimento.

A draw as the French is not a draw as Naples.

For some of the aforementioned factions… yet surviving is a remarkable outcome (current stats tell this), while any player who enter orders and sends messages using the brain can be included in a draw as Venezia.

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13 Nov 12 UTC

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Hobbits Game Again Pretty Please?

Hobbits was cancelled - requires 19 players. The one with Wizards and Centaurs. I'm up for doing that game if we could get 19 willing players on board. Who's game? Pretty please? :)

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17 Nov 12 UTC

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Gunboat game play

I'd love to try a gunboat game. How do you play it? Are there rules somewhere, I searched. I saw a map of one of the games. What are the little bullets around the area. Are they bombs to avoid or treasures to be taken? Thanks!

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15 Nov 12 UTC

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2 on 2 gameID=11047

Anybody like to try a 2 on 2 team game??
I was thinking England/Germany vs. Italy/Turkey. Play for a draw.
pass: duo

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18 Nov 12 UTC

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Unwinnable game

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16 Nov 12 UTC

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Flames of War!

WWII fan? Join our game "Flames of War"! Long phases for casual gamers! If you are a fan of the miniatures game feel free to chat about it in the game!

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02 Nov 12 UTC

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Contract NON-Anon Gunboat IV

The purpose of this Special Rules Private game is to have an enjoyable old style (= non Anonymous) Gunboat game among gentlemen who have read, agreed, accepted each of the following rules and who promise to observe them carefully.

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16 Nov 12 UTC

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Partidas en español

Para los jugadores que quieran jugar partidas en español, os dejo el enlace a un nuevo servidor basado en webdip, donde vamos ampliando la comunidad:
http://www.webdiplomacy.com.es/
Os esperamos TAMBIÉN allí

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17 Nov 12 UTC

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Havoc!

Did this game crash??
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=10580#gamePanel

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16 Nov 12 UTC

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Noob Question: 2 fast 2 furious

I joined a game, 2 fast 2 furious, gunboat. There are 4 players. One voted cancel the other draw. Why? What should I vote? thanks.

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15 Nov 12 UTC

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Clasic Economic searching for 2 Players!

We are searching for 2 addition players http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=10915
PW: anothertry

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14 Nov 12 UTC
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ADVERTISE YOUR REPLACEMENTS HERE

This thread is on webDip and is kinda cool, so……

ADVERTISE ALL YOUR OPEN REPLACEABLE POSITIONS HERE!

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14 Nov 12 UTC

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Adjudication question

This has never come up in any of my games before and I'm wondering: if a fleet attempts to convoy an army to a territory but is dislodged, can it retreat to that territory?

My guess would be yes, but I'd like to be sure.

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14 Nov 12 UTC

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Fog of War?

I am kind of curious to try this fog of war map...anybody want to give it a go with me?

gameID=11026

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14 Nov 12 UTC

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need Admin help please

I type a plan up and post it on global...What can i do?

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Alexander the Awesome (878

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12 Nov 12 UTC

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Need A Replacement

Britain is in a good postion, but the user left.
gameID=10818

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13 Nov 12 UTC

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Board not displaying properly

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butterhead (1272

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12 Nov 12 UTC
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"Finally the one continent on this planet missing his own variant got one"

umm... what about Antarctica? Did we just forget that it is TECHNICALLY a continent?

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Hollywood (1423

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13 Nov 12 UTC

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Ad about cookies at the top of the site?

Just wanted to know if anyone else is seeing this? And if it's legitimate or an ad or something like malware

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23 Oct 12 UTC
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Congratulations to Oli!

Here's a huge congratulations to Oli and his family. Laura-Marie is a beautiful little one!

Let's all raise a glass of your favorite poison (whiskey for me) to Oli! Huzzah!

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