Blah kaner OR oli, stupid auto correct.

that's a good point. This might be a good spot to discuss the 60 SC quota to win, in this variant. What seems to be the feeling that it should be?

Well IMO, this map should be a majority (55) or less. The stalemate lines are very easy to set up, particularly in the middle of Asia running north and south. In addition, the sea zones are so.big around Africa, that it is easy to stymie an enemy fleet.

For example, looking at the game I am in where I am Germany:

I have destroyed France, Denmark, Russia, and almost byzantinum. I control the British Isles and most of mainland Europe as well as part of western Russia. And yet, despite my dominance and being twice as large as the next power, I am only halfway to tjensolo, and 60I scs looks to be almost impossible to reach. 55 would be more accessible, but still quite difficult, which is probably the type of balance we want.

would 50 be more appropriate?

I would think 50 to 55 would be appropriate. Since 55 is the normal majority win condition, i would think it would be best to start there and work down in the future depending on stats. 60 just doesn't make sense as its akin to saying younneed 20 in classic to win.

well if may add a couple cents-
in drano's game, it looks there's still a lot of action- and the board looks very playable from a variety of approaches. So, I think 60 might possibly be attainable however, I would suggest never requiring more than the majority. I think that 55, being the majority, is appropriate for a solo victory. Overall, I think it's quite a good map, and could make for some really good games w/ varsity players.

This reminds me of a good idea for enhanced naval battles which could address several of our past issues when the ease of stalemating sea zones affects the playability of large-scale maps. I'll be making a forum post about it soon.

I'd also like to add that I believe the transform option was a great addition kaner. It WOULD be practically impossible for some powers to solo without it.

I like the majority and I love the transform option. I'm in the same game and though it all depends on how the balance of power falls, I can see many scenarios where there could be a stalemate in the seas on this map. We came very close to having two just east of Africa and just northwest of Africa already.

@Raro - I'm looking forward to hearing your ideas re: sea zones.

I think the 2 biggest improvements would be making the non-sc territories in northern Russia smaller, and the Sea zones in the south atlantic and indian ocean smaller

They currently make it to easy to form stalemate lines

@kaner
I'm typing something up and I'll post it this weekend

Every map should be won with a majority. Anything else allows a power that wouldn't necessarily overpower the forces against it to "win".

Rubbish.

It has been changed to 55 SCs to win. As the designer made it to be originally.